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re: Jews for Trump!
Posted on 4/6/24 at 6:56 pm to TygerTyger
Posted on 4/6/24 at 6:56 pm to TygerTyger
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Just look at the biblical history of the Jews. Time and time again, in the face of unquestionable facts, they doubted God and self sabotaged.
Just finished reading Joshua and Judges in the Old Testament the past few weeks. The same theme, over and over and over again:
God delivers them from enemies and gives them rich lands.
They betray Him and start worshipping foreign gods and banging foreign women
They become weak and are conquered by their enemies.
They cry out for deliverance. God sends a deliverer. Tells them "Don't betray me and I'll protect you".
They betray Him and...
Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
And before the usual suspects start with "Anti-Semitism", this was the Old Testament. It was written by Jewish priestly scribes.
The Hebrews themselves recognized that they had a reoccurring loyalty problem to Yaweh.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 6:57 pm to TNTigerman
You need to make a distinction between practicing and non-practicing Jews. The non-practicing variety are pure hedonists and could give a rat's arse about the "Common Good". aka: The Jewish Mafia
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:02 pm to tarzana
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Most Jews, and... the majority of Israeli Jews, support a two-state solution
True
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and decry Netanyahu's big stick posturing
False
Clearly you’ve never been to Israel.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:49 pm to TygerTyger
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they doubted God and self sabotaged.
This is always the excuse written after some catastrophe such as Joshua losing a battle, Philistines defeating Israel in battle, Moab defeating them, getting stomped by Assyria and getting skullfricked by Babylon. When the Iraelites won a battle, it was because God was on their side - a divine victory. Whenever they lost, it was because God defeated their free will and gave them into the hands of the enemy. Wars were not won by people, but by the gods. Pathetic excuses really, but those excuses were commonplace.
Let me give you an example. In 2 Kings 3, Elisha the prophet of Yahweh promised the kings of Israel, Judah, and Edom that they would defeat Moab. In the end, Moab sacrificed to their god Chemosh who won the battle for them by defeating the Israelite coalition. The same war victory was described by Mesha, the king of Moab, and Mesha gave all the credit to Chemosh for crushing the Israelites. He tells the story of why the Israelites had oppressed them for years - it was because they had abandoned Chemosh, but their recent victory was precisely due to them returning to Chemosh. It’s straight out of an Israelite fairy tale. It’s reasonable and even expected once you understand that Moab and Israel were cut from tbe same Canaanite cloth - they were both sects of Canaanites. They shared the same culture, the same language, and the same excuses for winning and losing battles. The Bible even admits this much when Abraham’s nephew, Lot, has an incestuous relationship with his daughter and produces the ancestor of the Moabites… they are the “inbred bastard cousins” of the Israelites.
Mesha Stele
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miracles
Never happened
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Moses
Didn’t exist
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freeing you from generations of slavery
As Moses never existed and the Israelites were never slaves in Egypt, the only one who ever freed the Israelites from slavery en masse was Cyrus (Persian emperor and king of Babylon). Cyrus was the Lord’s messiah, Isaiah 45.
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turning to worshipping a golden calf just because Moses has been gone a while
They weren’t worshipping the calf. They were worshipping Adonai - Yahweh - the “one true god”. They were using an idol to worship him, as they had done for hundreds of years especially with El Elyon, the patron deity of Israel before the priests began to assert that Yahweh and El were the same deity (hence why the scribes wrote Exodus 6:3 to resolve the two gods into one god). Using idols was the only way they knew to worship Yahweh. Funny thing is that Yahweh punished them for using an idol to worship him, but he had not yet given the commandment to them to not use idols in their worship - the very thing Moses was supposed to bring down to them on the stone tablets.
Try to understand. They were not worshipping a statue of a calf. They were using the calf as an image - as an idol - a representation of their god Yahweh. Just see for yourself in exodus 32.
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3So all the people took off the rings of gold that were in their ears and brought them to Aaron. 4And he received the gold from their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a golden calf. And they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!” 5When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow shall be a feast to the LORD.”
Question: who brought them out of Egypt?
Answer: the LORD
Who does the calf represent?
Answer: the god who brought them out of Egypt
Question: when Aaron saw the golden calf, he proclaimed a feast day to which god?
Answer: the LORD
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It is said that the Jews are God's chosen people
Later scribes wrote about the Israelites as if Yahweh (the LORD) chose them. In fact, the earlier story is preserved in Deuteronomy 32:8-9, when Yahweh received the Israelites as a people from his father El Elyon (god most high) when El Elyon was dividing up the nations and assigning his sons (gods) to rule over those nations.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:03 pm to burger bearcat
Jews need a diaspora to feel safe in their host countries, which is why they support open borders and melting pot cultures.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:00 am to tigerpawl
quote:Jews themselves make no such distinction except for where convenient while communicating with non-Jews. For instance, they make no distinction when describing the successes of Jewish Nobel laureates, scientists or researchers. They will never say how many practicing vs non-practicing are affected by the nebulous affliction of antisemitism. They similarly make no such distinction when speaking of the holocaust.
You need to make a distinction between practicing and non-practicing Jews.
They are, however, quick to make the distinction if you call them to account for their overwhelmingly disproportionate involvement in the transgender movement, pornography, espionage, progressive and anti-American voting, etc.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 1:58 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:02 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:19 am to burger bearcat
Secular Jews do not practice their religion. There is the problem.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:21 am to SirWinston
The problem is you risk blowing up these countries and destroying what made them safe and desirable places to live in in the first place
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:28 am to JasonDBlaha
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I’ve never understood why the GOP has always worshipped the Jewish population.
It comes down to money, the parties work for their donors, and 40 of the top 100 donors are Jewish
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:05 am to burger bearcat
As if we needed more proof he’s not the same guy who came on the scene almost ten years ago
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:06 am to wareagle7298
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I have a lot of friends that are Jewish, and they will never vote Republican ever. It would get them kicked out of the Synagogue that they never attend.
All true so then why be their friend?
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:48 am to TygerTyger
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I fully support Israel and their actions to defend themselves and seek revenge against the evil enemies they deal with.
The ones that they themselves created lmao
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:06 am to Damone
I thought you'd get a laugh out of this.
LINK
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Here will be the key to evaluating whether Candace Owens and other highly online "dissident right" types are sincere in their claimed epiphanies regarding Israel: what will be their attitude on Trump 2024?
Trump has long boasted to have been "the most pro-Israel president of all time," and with good justification -- at least (arguably) until Biden. Trump is currently campaigning on the ludicrous idea that Biden is betraying Israel, and Jews who vote Democrat hate their own religion. Jared Kushner is holding secret meetings with Netanyahu, while Trump continues to hold secret meetings with Miriam Adelson, the widow of his chief financial backer in 2020. Trump has never once criticized the Israeli decimation of Gaza on principle -- only that the offensive is not happening quickly enough, and there are too many unfortunate images of its results being disseminated in the media.
So are all these "dissident right" types who claim to have undergone a major revelation on Israel just going to seamlessly transition to their standard reflex of cheerleading for Trump -- who stands 100% opposed to their claimed newfound beliefs? If so, they're still the same pandering hacks you always suspected they were
LINK
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:49 am to wareagle7298
You need better friends
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:14 am to BuckyCheese
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They are tribal and use it to their advantage just like actual minorities.
Jewish people in particular use it to build a network of wealthy connections that help out when one’s business might be failing. Wherever one Jew moves to, that leaves pheromones for more Jews to follow suit. They all move to one spot, congregate, organize, and open synagogues and Jewish day schools. Then the Jewish-owned lawyer and real estate firms all move to that location. Perfect example of this is Miami.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:21 pm to MadQfrog
I wasn’t talking about a direct quote from Biden but the concept he expressed. Shapiro has said Israel existing make him safer as a Jew in America. That’s part of a broader philosophy he’s expounded for a while.
LINK
LINK
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“As a US Jew, I can’t be more grateful to the people of Israel for protecting and defending not only eternal values but the survival of Western civilization more broadly. It’s not often enough that US Jews say thank you to Israelis, but they ought to.... Americans benefit from having Israelis on the front lines protecting civilization and Jewish lives,”
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:33 pm to JasonDBlaha
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They all move to one spot, congregate, organize, and open synagogues and Jewish day schools.
You're a complete dipshit. Israeli Jews thought American Jews got Trump elected in 2016.
"They all move to one spot." We fuc%*ing cockroaches now? Everyone moves where taxes are lower, we just tend to be smarter, lol
And yes, you genius, it's a guideline that we're supposed to congregate, I don't know, similar to f@*$ing Ramadan...
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:44 pm to burger bearcat
Orthodox Jews, practicing Jews, vote GOP.
Secular Jews like Ezra Klein, Harvey Weinstein, Steven Spielberg, Ben Stiller, Marc Benioff, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Larry Fink, Tom Steyer,big tech and entertainment Jews, love the left.
Most billionaire Jews are leftists.
Secular Jews like Ezra Klein, Harvey Weinstein, Steven Spielberg, Ben Stiller, Marc Benioff, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Larry Fink, Tom Steyer,big tech and entertainment Jews, love the left.
Most billionaire Jews are leftists.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:02 pm to LemmyLives
Are you Jewish? Just curious. I’m not anti semetic or anything. I’m just pointing out observations I’ve made from visiting places like Miami.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 7:05 pm
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