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Can y’all admit we miss BI
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:18 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:18 am
It’s clearly obvious that BI is important to this team. Some of you actually thought Trey was a much better player, and these past 2 weeks have proven y’all wrong. Blame Willie all you want, but our offense fell off a cliff when BI got hurt.
I’d like to see some of the BI haters eat crow and admit they were wrong about him. Now is your chance to repent.
I’d like to see some of the BI haters eat crow and admit they were wrong about him. Now is your chance to repent.
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:22 am to saintslsupels
Not repenting until I see a coach who can actually scheme without BI.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:24 am to saintslsupels
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I’d like to see some of the BI haters eat crow and admit they were wrong about him. Now is your chance to repent.
No one stated not having BI wouldnt be a big loss. But I think this team has some fundamental major issues regardless if BI plays or not. We lost these kind of games with BI as well- just the truth.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:26 am to 50_Tiger
It’s always somebody else’s fault. Top 10 offense with BI, and we look like bottom 5 offense without him. Obviously not having Jose hurts too but y’all won’t even admit BI is a good player who’s important to the teams success? Just a coincidence that our offense fell off a cliff when he got hurt?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:27 am to saintslsupels
We lost to every one of those teams with BI including Milwaukee that we beat without him.
We have a coaching issue, being nice to players only gets you so far as a coach, you have to be able tl scheme and exploit mismatches and make adjustments, none of which we do.
We have a coaching issue, being nice to players only gets you so far as a coach, you have to be able tl scheme and exploit mismatches and make adjustments, none of which we do.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:29 am to saintslsupels
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Obviously not having Jose hurts too but y’all won’t even admit BI is a good player who’s important to the teams success? Just a coincidence that our offense fell off a cliff when he got hurt?
No one is saying that. Your assuming thatd what people think. Our offense also fell off a cliff when we went against good teams and defenses- even with BI against good teams and defenses we still struggle.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:45 am to Pels_Yaz
OP is correct, but people are going to double down on bad takes.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:47 am to Pels_Yaz
BIs agent is cumming in his pants. Griff is going to be dumb enough to give him a max contract. BI is a good player but does not fit around Zion. If you want to build around Zion give him the personnel and coach to do so. Griff needs to be gone as well. He has done shite with the treasure chest of assets.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:52 am to Jester
Appreciate that. Funny that we have a winning record against the top 8 teams in the west when BI is healthy but can barely manage to get 100 points when he’s out. I guess it’s just purely a coincidence that we look extremely stagnant on offense without BI. Clearly not having him against good teams isn’t an issue right???
Our offense works when BI and Zion lead the way, and CJ can pick his spots as the #3 guy. Our role players work best when they can actually function as role players and only take around 5 shots. I’m sorry guys but Trey isn’t an all around offensive player, he’s a 3 point specialist that needs someone else to get him looks.
I can’t think of any other fan base that has someone like BI but thinks the team is better without him.
Our offense works when BI and Zion lead the way, and CJ can pick his spots as the #3 guy. Our role players work best when they can actually function as role players and only take around 5 shots. I’m sorry guys but Trey isn’t an all around offensive player, he’s a 3 point specialist that needs someone else to get him looks.
I can’t think of any other fan base that has someone like BI but thinks the team is better without him.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:53 am to Jester
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OP is correct, but people are going to double down on bad takes.
I think what people are saying is of course we miss BI but there is a bigger underlying problem. What is our identity? Who are we offensively? Because honestly with everyone healthy we’re just “our stars just go 1on1 team.” That to me is the main problem and not a sustainable philosophy. This team was still winless entering the fourth when down and had issues in the clutch with BI. Saying we’re losing these games because BI is injured is the easy take but its not necessarily the right one.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:57 am to saintslsupels
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Appreciate that. Funny that we have a winning record against the top 8 teams in the west when BI is healthy but can barely manage to get 100 points when he’s out. I guess it’s just purely a coincidence that we look extremely stagnant on offense without BI. Clearly not having him against good teams isn’t an issue right???
Again you’re making these losses STRICTLY about BI being injured and thats not fully accurate. Theres a much deeper issue here which is coming out in these losses against good teams. We lost against celtics WITH BI, we lost against thunder WITH BI, lost against magic WITH BI and lost against suns WITH BI. Its NOT JUST BI.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:01 am to Pels_Yaz
We also beat the Thunder WITH BI, beat the Nuggets WITH BI, beat the Mavs WITH BI, beat the Twolves WITH BI.
I’m just asking if y’all can admit we’re better with BI than without him. Everyone other team in the NBA is better with there 2nd best player than they are without, why would the Pels be any different?
I’m just asking if y’all can admit we’re better with BI than without him. Everyone other team in the NBA is better with there 2nd best player than they are without, why would the Pels be any different?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:02 am to saintslsupels
Some won't admit it after shitting on him for most of his time with the pels.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:05 am to Pels_Yaz
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What is our identity? Who are we offensively? Because honestly wiperson.
eryone healthy we’re just “our stars just go 1on1 team.” That to me is the main problem and not a sustainable philosophy. Thi
That is what zion is always going to be until he seriously works on his flaws all off-season.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:06 am to Pels_Yaz
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We lost against celtics WITH BI
This past weekend? No, he was out. The one game he did play against then he put up 28 7 and 6 and was the main reason it was close late.
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lost against magic WITH BI
He got hurt in the first half and it was close when he got hurt. Game changed as soon as he went down.
There's tons of issues with the team, but to act like not having our 1b shot creator isn't the main reason we're struggling is a little silly. There's no deeper issue. Willie isn't a great coach, but most nba coaches aren't.
In the NBA, you win when you have more talent on the court, and we don't when we're missing ingram, and to a lesser extent Jose.
We've played the top of the league right now and everyteam we've played has been healthy and fine tuning while we're adjusting, it's an awful recipe, and I don't think for one second willie is the guy to fix it, but again, most nba coaches can't.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:22 am to saintslsupels
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I’m just asking if y’all can admit we’re better with BI than without him. Everyone other team in the NBA is better with there 2nd best player than they are without, why would the Pels be any different?
Yes everyone admits that. No one is saying we’re not. But even with BI we still had issues. I just don’t understand how you guys dont see that???
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:24 am to Chalkywhite84
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That is what zion is always going to be until he seriously works on his flaws all off-season.
Its not just Zion. Its what BI and CJ do too. You act like the other stars games are so diverse. BI barely attempts 3s. CJ disappears in big games against goid teams. Again not just a Zion issue. There is no coaching or scheme to help any of these players out. We barely run sny actions with BI and Zion.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:33 am to whatiknowsofar
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This past weekend? No, he was out. The one game he did play against then he put up 28 7 and 6 and was the main reason it was close late.
You mean we lost in the clutch AGAIN.
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He got hurt in the first half and it was close when he got hurt. Game changed as soon as he went down. There's tons of issues with the team, but to act like not having our 1b shot creator isn't the main reason we're struggling is a little silly. There's no deeper issue. Willie isn't a great coach, but most nba coaches aren't.
We were struggling even with BI in the game against the Magic. We didn’t have some huge lead on them.
Yes not having BI is an issue but the problem its not that willie isn’t a great coach. Hes not even an above average one. And in close games against good teams- coaching matters. Name me a coach in the playoffs that Willie has an advantage over???
Even eith BI we were horrible in clutch and winless when we enter the fourth down on the scoreboard. Thats not normal- there are deeper issues there.
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We've played the top of the league right now and everyteam we've played has been healthy and fine tuning while we're adjusting, it's an awful recipe, and I don't think for one second willie is the guy to fix it, but again, most nba coaches can't.
I feel you’re literally making excuses for these losses. We were at home for all these games and yes these were good teams but to be considered a good team we have to beat them too.
I’ll give you an example- wolves lost KAT- they were suppose to plummet. They have continued to win- thats has nothing to do with Finch? You think hiw Thunder play has nothing to do with their coach? Good coaches make differences especially if you’re trying to be a great team.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:37 am to saintslsupels
I just don’t think he’s as vital to beating these teams as we think. I think we still lose.
But the excuses are coming back again and why well run it back again
But the excuses are coming back again and why well run it back again
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:40 am to saintslsupels
For a stretch of time, BI was the favorite target of the critics. It’s a rotating “honor” for the players.
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