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re: California’s $20 fast food minimum wage balloons menu prices

Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:20 pm to
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This is every minimum wage debate in history.

The supporters are always defeated by reductio ad absurdum: "If we really want to help people - why stop at $20/hr? Why not $50/hr or $100/hr?
That does not defeat them. These min wage increase supporters are ostensibly setting the bar roundabout the cost of living. The pay level below which a person working full time would still be a burden on the welfare/entitlement system (taxpayers). Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?



Because it will just be passed on to the consumer regardless. You liberals live in a fantasy land where businesses won't pass on costs to teh consumer. My taxes will not go down if these loser workers get paid more, and I will have to pay more on top of it.

Who would support that deal?
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2237 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer


Is that a serious question?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69492 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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The pay level below which a person working full time would still be a burden on the welfare/entitlement system (taxpayers). Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?



If society agrees that a full time worker deserves some sort of bare minimum standard of living, then society should collectively pay for that via welfare, EITC, universal basic income, etc.

Why do you think employers should be mandated to pay more than the what the employee produces?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45146 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?


Because its completely arbitrary and not quantifiable. If Karen chooses to blow her money on accessories and vodka thats on her.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37735 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?


Because the work they do is not worth that much if the government didn’t arbitrarily set it as such.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27388 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:26 pm to
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These min wage increase supporters are ostensibly setting the bar roundabout the cost of living.


Government interference in the market does nothing but manipulate the free-market, which then affects everything else.

So we don’t know what the “cost of living” would be in a true free market.

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