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re: White House disses Easter
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:29 pm to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:29 pm to Squirrelmeister
You do realize what realm studying myths puts you in...
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:00 pm to Narax
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You do realize what realm studying myths puts you in...
Mythology
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:39 pm to Squirrelmeister
Which last I checked is not history...
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Nope, still not...
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Nope, still not...
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:31 pm to FooManChoo
I’m still waiting for your response. Tell us all how the objective moral framework of the Bible influenced our laws. How our morality “borrowed” from the Bible.
Perhaps you could start with Leviticus 24:16:
So you must think it is morally imperative for you and your religious extremists to put me to death. So you must think it morally just for you to kill me. Remember Matthew said Jesus said whomever doesn’t follow “the law” will be last in the kingdom of God.
How does that compare to the constitution, say, like the first amendment? Did the founding fathers borrow from Leviticus? Or did they do the exact MF’ing opposite?
Perhaps you could start with Leviticus 24:16:
quote:
Whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.
So you must think it is morally imperative for you and your religious extremists to put me to death. So you must think it morally just for you to kill me. Remember Matthew said Jesus said whomever doesn’t follow “the law” will be last in the kingdom of God.
How does that compare to the constitution, say, like the first amendment? Did the founding fathers borrow from Leviticus? Or did they do the exact MF’ing opposite?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:58 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Yeah, I'm pretty much over trying to respond to your lies in this thread. You do everything in your power to suppress the truth in unrighteousness. You continue to talk about how there is no objective morality while condemning God and what the Bible says, as if your condemnation has any sort of rational, objective meaning. Like I keep saying, you are walking contradiction and you refuse to admit it.
I’m still waiting for your response.
Regarding biblical morality: you continue to fail to see that God is just and all people are sinful and guilty before Him. God has the right to do with His creation whatever He so desires and there is no moral defect in God destroying guilty sinners for their war against Him and for breaking His law, just as we don't associate killing in war as murder or the death penalty carried out justly by civil authorities as murder. What is immoral is when man attempts to be autonomous and acts without God's command. When man takes man's life unjustly, it is sinful and morally wrong.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:04 pm to FooManChoo
"I have this book."
- FooLaneCraig
- FooLaneCraig
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:44 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I was actually “taught” Catholicism / Catechism and was forced to make my confirmation sacrament at about 16 or 17 years of age even though I had stopped believing in the fairy tale around 10-11 years old.
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For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgement, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.
Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?”
Hebrews 10:26-29
People on this board that you dismiss as immoral fools are praying faithfully for your restoration and reconciliation to your Lord and Savior. Fervently praying, because they know your peril and the deadly path you have chosen. Will you not, even now, tonight, risk being a hypocrite and fool, and kneel and pray and ask the Jesus you don’t believe exists to reveal himself? “Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.”
Mr. M.
quote:Trying to destroy believers’ faith in Christ is a deadly game you’re playing against an implacable opponent who’s proved himself willing to bleed and die for their faith in Him.
Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.
St. Mark’s Gospel 9:42
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:27 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Yeah, I'm pretty much over trying to respond to your lies in this thread
Pitiful response from a pitiful poster who did not even attempt to answer my questions because it would further reinforce that you are a moral monster and a fool.
And if you act based on your depraved morality, there will be consequences in our society. Your only defense will be to claim insanity.
woman kills her three boys because God told her to
God tells woman to shoot other motorists
Religiosity and people who kill their children
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:54 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:07 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:"Moral monster". That doesn't mean anything coming from you. You admit that your moral compass has no true north, so how can you say anyone else is "lost" when it comes to morality? You are the one who is lost, and you have no ability to know what the right way is because you believe morality is subjective.
Pitiful response from a pitiful poster who did not even attempt to answer my questions because it would further reinforce that you are a moral monster and a fool.
quote:First, "consequences" are just as meaningless as the actions, themselves, in your worldview. You already claim to hold to a subjective moral framework, so you have no rational basis for meaningful condemnation. All you have is your own opinion, which I care nothing about on this subject. Your opinion is not more valuable than God's revelation.
And if you act based on your depraved morality, there will be consequences in our society. Your only defense will be to claim insanity.
Second, you don't understand that my theology is based on the Bible as God's unchangeable and inerrant Word. God's revelation is closed and He doesn't communicate with people audibly any longer. He doesn't speak to prophets because there are no more prophets. What God did in the Bible was always special and not normative because it was done for important and unique reasons in the history of redemption. God didn't arbitrarily command anything, but everything He revealed and commanded was to lead to the salvation of His people, as ultimately fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It is finished, and the Church has been founded, so there is no more revelation. God doesn't "speak" to people any longer outside of the Bible.
With that said, I reject your implication that my morality is subjective (it is not, and even if it were, you would have no rational basis for condemning it) and I don't believe that God speaks to anyone any longer, so no one can make the defense that God told them to do anything that is outside of the pages of Scripture. Even the Bible teaches us that we should test all claimed revelation according to God's Word. If someone believes God is speaking to them in their head, they should really consider that it is Satan and not God doing that, or that they do have something wrong with their heads.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:57 am to FooManChoo
Fragile admin deleted my reply to you. It was a good one though!
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:16 am to FooManChoo
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you continue to fail to see that God is just and all people are sinful and guilty before Him. God has the right to do with His creation whatever
Assuming that you're right about the second part, that God has the right to do whatever he wants with his creation, what if you're wrong about the first part and God doesn't care about sin or guilt? What if God, having created the universe, simply doesn't care about earth at all, let alone one species of life on it?
I think you're awfully presumptuous, claiming to understand the mind/motivations/morality of the creator of the universe.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:30 am to Go Down Moses
quote:I don't think it's presumptuous at all when my statements are based on what God has told us in His word.
Assuming that you're right about the second part, that God has the right to do whatever he wants with his creation, what if you're wrong about the first part and God doesn't care about sin or guilt? What if God, having created the universe, simply doesn't care about earth at all, let alone one species of life on it?
I think you're awfully presumptuous, claiming to understand the mind/motivations/morality of the creator of the universe.
All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God and are guilty before Him (Romans 3). He also has the right to show mercy on whoever He chooses (Romans 9). If all are guilty and God isn't required to show mercy to anyone, He has the freedom to do as He will.
I don't presume to understand the mind of God, but I have full warrant as a Christian to read the word of God and understand what God has told us about Himself.
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