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Posted on 4/1/24 at 1:34 pm to jennyjones
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Do some research on offensive line play and get back to me
Poster is not wrong. Penning when he played last year seemed like he shouldn’t be starting anywhere on the line to be honest.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:38 pm to Pels_Yaz
The worst in all this is the coach that said he was starting. How they could watch all camp and all preseason and say "yes you bet he's ready" is beyond me. I guess being unemployed says a bit.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:36 pm to goatmilker
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The worst in all this is the coach that said he was starting. How they could watch all camp and all preseason and say "yes you bet he's ready" is beyond me. I guess being unemployed says a bit.
Penning probably looked All-Pro going against our D-line's inability to get pressure on the QB
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:43 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Maybe lol but damn Marrone should have seen. I mean he didn't look good coming out of the gate.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:22 am to Chalkywhite84
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His kick set was bad. His feet were bad. He would lunge. A coach could tell you exactly what to do but the player eventually has to execute.
I agree with your critique, except for the lunge piece. I didn't notice him lunge much, but definitely leaned too forward and was easily knocked off balance.
I have no idea if he is a guy that can switch sides of the ball and perform better or worse. I'd lean to think he's better on left side since that's where he's played for so long, and others have switched with no problems, yet somebody like Peat was a lost puppy on the right side.
His biggest attribute coming out of college was his hand fighting and mean streak to be a great run blocker. The biggest disappointment to me last season was that we saw some of that in preseason, then ZERO during the regular season! WTH changed from preseason to week 1? Genuine question, was it stage fright=possibly? Was it better talent=I say not really? Was it defensive game plans=Maybe some plays but definitely not all considering he got beat plenty times in straight 1v1. Was it our offensive game plan maybe giving him too much to think about?=Sort of my guess leading to paralysis by analysis, combined with some of his just poor execution. Part of the silver lining that makes me think their is still hope for him is that nobody on the line performed particularly well last season. McCoy was best, with Peat legitimately being our 2nd best, the same Peat that I and many others have hoped would be beat out each of the last 5 seasons and only need to be our backup at best if not off the team altogether.
I just could not get over how timid he was and would go from either leaning too far forward off balance or the opposite end of the spectrum where he was completely back on his heels reacting the whole time where he is definitely not quick enough to adjust to NFL DEs.
What's really weird to me is that he did seem to get slightly better each game from weeks 1-3, to the point where I didn't think he needed to be benched, but Peat (of all people) ended up definitely being the best option.
1st rd pick with a bunch of good college film, and really only 1 true NFL season under his belt so he definitely deserves a chance to prove he's not a bust. However in no way would be content to trot Penning out for starting LT without some kind of competition. At a minimum we need to either re-sign Peat or sign Donovan Smith and let them battle it out for starting LT. Dennis Allen also didn't sound enthused about Ramczyk's knee and future so RT needs to be addressed as well. I imagine we will use an early pick on an OT. Penning could be a bust, Peat's last season could be a fluke (plus he wasn't great, just great for Peat lol) and he could be hurt in week 2.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:23 am to Doug_H
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His biggest attribute coming out of college was his hand fighting and mean streak to be a great run blocker. The biggest disappointment to me last season was that we saw some of that in preseason, then ZERO during the regular season! WTH changed from preseason to week 1? Genuine question, was it stage fright=possibly? Was it better talent=I say not really?
Yes it was MUCH better talent. It’s preseason.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:14 am to Pels_Yaz
but he still went against some 1s in preseason and held his own, and then proceeded to get beat by journeyman Arden Key in Week 1
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:02 am to Doug_H
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but he still went against some 1s in preseason and held his own, and then proceeded to get beat by journeyman Arden Key in Week 1
Its preseason how hard do you think those ones were going for maybe a quarter?? Really hard to judge preseason to regular season in football.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:50 pm to Doug_H
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but he still went against some 1s in preseason and held his own, and then proceeded to get beat by journeyman Arden Key in Week 1
You aren’t suggesting that he wasn’t as bad as it seemed, are you?
What we saw in the regular season was real. Either the guy can play guard, or he can’t play in the league.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:07 pm to ForTheWin81
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I haven't watched a whole lot of the Saints lately
Thanks for sharing your opinion then.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:51 pm to chRxis
I'm hopeful he can become a good guard. Worried tho that he's mentally done. He bullied folks in college and seemed to fold once he realized he couldn't bully some of these guys in the NFL.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:02 am to Whodat4300
Getting help from a HOFer is not going to improve his limited physical
abilities.A tacckle needs to have great feet and hip movement,if he doesnt
have that he aint going to be a tackle.
The Saints scouts need to be fired if they couldnt see this on film or in
a game in person.I dont blame the player I blame the organization.
abilities.A tacckle needs to have great feet and hip movement,if he doesnt
have that he aint going to be a tackle.
The Saints scouts need to be fired if they couldnt see this on film or in
a game in person.I dont blame the player I blame the organization.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:15 am to ForTheWin81
I would definitely try him at guard. He’s huge and has a mean streak.
He could end up being like Carl Nicks who was drafted as a RT but ended up being an All-Pro OG instead.
He could end up being like Carl Nicks who was drafted as a RT but ended up being an All-Pro OG instead.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:34 am to cbree88
Put that bulldozer at guard. Makes all the sense in the world. Probably could be an all pro at that position.
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