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re: Biblical Solutions that we use to honor and would solve alot of problems

Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:39 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:39 am to
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The Jesus myth allows them to worm their way out of anything they don't like. Exactly like they're doing in the thread.


You are such an edgy little coward....


Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:40 am to
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Totally false, not that it matters in the context of this thread. There is no evidence to suggest they copied off of each other. None.

No, it is just that you have never researched the topic or you are willfully ignoring the evidence - resulting in your ignorance.

How editorial fatigue shows Matthew and Luke copied Mark

But you don’t have to read scholarship, if you’d only just read the gospels you’d have figured it out on your own. Why else would there be word for word copying - in Greek?

But don’t take my word for it. Take the writer of Luke’s own words from chapter 1:

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1Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, 2just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, 3it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.

Luke is outright stating there are “many” gospel accounts before his and that they were delivered to “us” and that he specifically is NOT an eyewitness to any of these alleged events.

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The point of this (if there was a gate or not, a rope or not) is not lost and it's meaning is the same.

Agreed, it is impossible for someone like you who hasn’t given away all their possessions and lived like a vagabond to enter heaven. Do you have a savings, a home, a 401(k)? Then you are the rich man Jesus was talking about.

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"Eye of a Needle" has been used through out time. Even to Koran mentions the "eye of a Needle".

Except that in Mark, Matthew, and Luke, a different Greek word was used for “needle”.

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Did Mark and his brethren copy the Koran?

Mark most likely copied the original gospel widely distributed as the “Evangelikon” by Markion of Sinope who compiled the first Christian Bible. The other part of Markion’s Bible was called the “Apostolikon” and was basically the undisputed epistles of Paul plus Colossians and Ephesians (though it was not called Ephesians). Markion’s gospel is all but lost except for a boatload of writings of the early church fathers and it was quoted so much that it can basically be reconstructed. The Evangelikon was just an earlier version of Luke (that Markion specifically claimed to NOT have written though no one knows for sure). Mark revised the Evangelikon and started spreading his own version. Matthew revised Mark and began to circulate his version. Luke revised the Evangelikon but in doing so added some material from Mark and Matthew.

And by the way, Matthew, Mark, and Luke were just the names assigned to the different versions of the Gospels that they had to accept as divinely inspired in order to unite the groups of churches using each version under their authority in Rome.

None of the gospels we have were written by people who claimed firsthand to be an eyewitness. The only written words in the entire Bible that were a first person eyewitness claim was of Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:8. That’s it, the only firsthand account of anyone claiming to have seen Jesus, and that was after his death and resurrection. Paul even stated when Jesus appeared to him, he had been brought up the the third heaven and didn’t know if he was in his body or out of his body. 2 Corinthians 12:2.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:41 am to
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The Jesus myth allows them to worm their way out of anything they don't like. Exactly like they're doing in the thread.

If it doesn't fit, explain it away. That's one of the benefits of it not being reality.


You will grovel before that "myth" before long.

And no one has to explain away his misunderstanding of charity vs government intervention.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51131 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:43 am to
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None of the gospels we have were written by people who claimed firsthand to be an eyewitness. The only written words in the entire Bible that were a first person eyewitness claim was of Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:8. That’s it, the only firsthand account of anyone claiming to have seen Jesus, and that was after his death and resurrection. Paul even stated when Jesus appeared to him, he had been brought up the the third heaven and didn’t know if he was in his body or out of his body. 2 Corinthians 12:2.


Wow. It's amazing how people will state complete lies with such certainty. How did you allow yourself to be convinced of this nonsense?
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:44 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:44 am to
As far as I can see, the only biblical solution we need right now is to get Christ back in our hearts, and His words (scripture) back in our minds, but you can’t put the cart before the horse. We have to get Christ back in our hearts, not our own personal Jesus of our own creation, but the real Jesus, and His real words. A revival of the authentic Gospel in America would absolutely be the most transformative thing to ever happen and get this country back on the right track, saving it for us and future generations to come. The law apart from Christ won’t solve this. Only having Christ in our hearts is going to get our hearts and minds aligned with God and show itself in our communities in the form of peace and success. We need to go back and find out where we dropped God off in our lives. That’s all of us really, me included.



Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:46 am to
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You will grovel before that "myth" before long.


"Just wait and see" is so compelling...

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51131 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:48 am to
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Just wait and see" is so compelling


No point in trying to convince someone who has obviously given himself over to lies. Hopefully you realize the truth one day, but it seems likely that will not happen. You've been given plenty of warning already.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:50 am to
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You've been given plenty of warning already.


Oh, I know.

And if I just wait, someday I'll see. No one will ever know, but it's totally going to happen.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53623 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:50 am to
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Is it time to polish off Deuteronomy and bring back bans on pork, shellfish and we get to start stoning non virgin women again?




Classic lack of u derstandinh scripture.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53623 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:57 am to
I get where you are coming from. I understand exactly what you are attempting. Know all to well.


In short, all you have manged to do is put forth opinions.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58409 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:33 am to
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Biblical Solutions that we use to honor and would solve alot of problems


If everyone employed New Testament teachings into their daily lives, America would be a paradise.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:01 am to
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If everyone employed New Testament teachings into their daily lives, America would be a paradise.


Well, for some people.

I'd rather get back to the foundation of this country.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:32 am to
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The Jesus myth







Here's the funny thing about atheists. For years we have been told how horrible Christians are for forcing their beliefs onto other people. Somehow though, in all my years of existence, I have never personally known any Christian who actually does this. Have I seen some street preachers here and there? Yes, and the Christians I know do not support what they do. They are also a very rare and few people.


Atheists though? I have yet to meet one that doesn't go out of his way to force his non beliefs on others. Every single Atheist I have known in my life ensures I know he is an Atheist and that Jesus is a myth.

It's no wonder people don't like you. You are exactly what you wrongly ridicule others for doing. You are especially exposing yourself as fraudulent when you try to use the Bible as a gotcha, because it's clear you know nothing about it outside of the few quotes your fellow Atheists give you to use as gotchas; quotes taken out of context and being used with your inserted meanings without understanding of their real meanings. All you do is make yourself look more the fool than you already do.


Personally I don't care if people are Atheist. That's their religion, and they have every right to adhere to it as they wish. You do you bro, and please keep quoting things you know nothing about here so that we can all continue to laugh at you.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2342 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:40 am to
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Yeah it never made sense to me why Jesus fed the multitudes (twice even!). It just encouraged them to depend on handouts.


I realize you are trolling, but this had nothing to do with lazy people getting handouts from their neighbors
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59509 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:46 am to
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I have never personally known any Christian who actually does this.


I mean, on this very page you have one telling DB that he is going to "grovel" before Christianity. So you don't have to look very far to see that your statement isn't true.

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I have yet to meet one that doesn't go out of his way to force his non beliefs on others. Every single Atheist I have known in my life ensures I know he is an Atheist and that Jesus is a myth.


That's not forcing his belief on you though. That's just stating his belief. You're just offended by it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:54 am to
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I have yet to meet one that doesn't go out of his way to force his non beliefs on others.


How have any of them done that?

This should be fricking good.



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It's no wonder people don't like you. 


I don't give one frick what garbage people like you think of me, and I never will.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24920 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:13 am to
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I don't give one frick what garbage people like you think of me,




This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24920 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:26 am to
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on this very page you have one telling DB that he is going to "grovel" before Christianity.



Well that's not what he said, but this interpretation by you is not surprising. Furthermore, the statement that was actually made was in response to being engaged by DP, so at that point there is no forcing of beliefs. It's responding to a silly attack against his beliefs by someone else who is indeed forcing theirs on his. DP never had to take part on this, but he couldn't resist the need to make everyone know their God is a myth. That's the SOP of Atheists.


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That's not forcing his belief on you though. That's just stating his belief.



By your definition then nobody ever forces their beliefs on anybody; however, by the terms laid out over the last several decades by the rest of the complainers, this does indeed fall into the category of "forcing beliefs on others." When someone makes it a point to "state his belief" to someone else when that belief is contradictory as well as demeaning to that other person's belief, that falls under this category by consensus definition of such. You just don't like being called out on it, but again it's about what I expect from you. You are woefully dishonest on these boards and laughably so. You have a history of some juicily bad takes.


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You're just offended by it.


Nah, not offended. I'm simply calling out hypocrites.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:39 am to
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Midget Death Squad


Nah. I think you're an idiot. My opinions shouldn't bother you, but they do.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:40 am to
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By your definition then nobody ever forces their beliefs on anybody


bullshite.

There's only one group of people in here pushing the idea that the world would be better if everyone "believed as we believe."
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