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re: Judge appointed by O'Bama rules illegals can legally carry firearms and ammo

Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:47 pm to
The militia argument is usually a dead end, unless we consider all able-bodied people to be militia.

Then it veers into the well regulated rabbit hole.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Good thing we are talking about all of the constitution.



Great thing it has been ruled on over 8 times... and each time it's a "no" to illegals owning fire arms.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Bless your leftist heart.

I understand what the bold says. You don't.

And leftists argue for restricting the 2A, which you are doing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Good thing we are talking about all of the constitution.

Correct.

The first step is having them admit that the Constitution recognizes plenty of rights for non-citizens.

Until they admit that, a real discussion can't even begin.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
A real discussion is impossible
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
Haven't looked it up, but I assume this guy was still charged/convicted for crimes against the state of Illinois or city of Chicago. Anyone know?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:53 pm to
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A real discussion is impossible


Yes, emotional priming and groupthink make it pretty impossible.

It's scary.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261602 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
Cant non residents own guns in some states if they own hunting licenses?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140728 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
It always gets to the lowest denominator quickly with cuck, liberal or some other stupid projection like “you support ms13 illegals having guns”.

Pointless really.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

understand what the bold says. You don't.


Oh I know you do. You are not fooling anyone

quote:

And leftists argue for restricting the 2A, which you are doing


Leftist argue 2 things.

1- restricting the US Citizens 2nd

And

2- pro illegals owning weapons.

I am firmly against both
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261602 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
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and each time it's a "no" to illegals owning fire arms


But its ok for non citizens who are here legally, right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
423383 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

It always gets to the lowest denominator quickly with cuck, liberal or some other stupid projection like “you support ms13 illegals having guns”.

Pointless really.

That's why people like JJ avoid answering simple questions.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
The real discussion has been had.... over and over and over again in higher courts.

The 2nd does not apply. It never has and never will
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
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Leftist argue 2 things.

1- restricting the US Citizens 2nd

And

2- pro illegals owning weapons.

I am firmly against both


You're a hypocrite, then.

I believe in defending our rights. I don't want 2A restrictions on citizens, either.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:57 pm to
Then this ruling will be overturned?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Then this ruling will be overturned?

This is from California, right?

I would love to hear the 9th Circuit enter the chat
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:17 pm to
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don't want 2A restrictions on citizens, either.


Illegals are not US Citizens
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:19 pm to
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Then this ruling will be overturned?


The other 8 cases have not and this will not be.


In the strictest terms, no constitutionalist judge that has made it to a higher court is going to rule against the constitution and the founding documents


There are limits to . The 2nd is one of them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Illegals are not US Citizens


And?

I was replying to your words:

quote:

1- restricting the US Citizens 2nd

And

2- pro illegals owning weapons.


I am against restricting 2A rights to everyone, including US citizens.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261602 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:21 pm to
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There are limits to . The 2nd is one of them.


There we have it.

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