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re: Justin Fields to Steelers per Rapoport and Schefter
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:22 pm to tigerfan84
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:22 pm to tigerfan84
The Bears' draft pick will not pan out. Fields will benefit more than anyone. Steelers!
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:27 pm to The Eric
I believe that would have worked out better for the bears.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:29 pm to thegambler
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Fields will benefit more than anyone.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 10:00 pm to Frac the world
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T Law kind of sucks too but Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Mac are a huge oooooof
Trevor will be fine, the only other one I thought would be decent was Fields. That might still happen.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 10:05 pm to CunningLinguist
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Russell Wilson is going to be his backup.
Unless he gets in his feelings like the cat the Steelers just got rid of.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 10:17 pm to dukke v
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Williams is gonna flop.
First ballot HOF guaranteed.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 10:22 pm to The Eric
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Honestly I don’t think the Bears should have moved on from him so fast. I think they should have traded away the #1 for a first and maybe a 2nd or 3rd.
Then use the picks to build around fields.
Again, they weren't going to do that two years in a row. Especially with a QB who was still a big question mark, and a GM and HC who didn't draft him.
The Bears moved on from Trubisky, and no one thought it was too fast. Yet, he was a better passer statistically than Fields, and he actually got to the playoffs twice.
I just don't understand why people think more draft capital would've magically made Fields better.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:32 pm to nvasil1
For a 6th round pick I can see the value for Fields. Not as a starting QB but bring him in on goal line situations as a running threat.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:44 pm to Frac the world
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How arse is that 2021 QB class? T Law kind of sucks too but Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Mac are a huge oooooof
Not nearly as bad as the 2022 class’s oof.
Jury still out on 2023 class but so far only Stroud looks to be a sure thing going forward.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:49 pm to dhuck20
Suicide watch? We were a 7 win team who has the panthers 1OP. Love JF but it’s Caleb time. Anyone with a brain understands why.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 3:12 am to thegambler
10-28 as a starter. Garbage!
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:06 am to Hamma1122
who did worse?
Bears traded
2021 1st round pick (#20)
2021 5th round pick
2022 1st round pick (#7)
2022 4th round pick
took Fields at 11 pick in 1st round traded him for a 6th rounder
49ers traded
2021 1st Round (#12)
2022 1st Round (#29)
2022 3rd Round pick
2023 1st Round 1 (#29)
took Lance at 3rd pick traded him for 4th round pick
Bears traded
2021 1st round pick (#20)
2021 5th round pick
2022 1st round pick (#7)
2022 4th round pick
took Fields at 11 pick in 1st round traded him for a 6th rounder
49ers traded
2021 1st Round (#12)
2022 1st Round (#29)
2022 3rd Round pick
2023 1st Round 1 (#29)
took Lance at 3rd pick traded him for 4th round pick
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:17 am to TigerintheNO
49ers are living on borrowed time.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:32 am to TigerintheNO
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who did worse? Bears traded 2021 1st round pick (#20) 2021 5th round pick 2022 1st round pick (#7) 2022 4th round pick took Fields at 11 pick in 1st round traded him for a 6th rounder 49ers traded 2021 1st Round (#12) 2022 1st Round (#29) 2022 3rd Round pick 2023 1st Round 1 (#29) took Lance at 3rd pick traded him for 4th round pick
NFL teams are quite terrible at trades. So focused on “immediate” and undervalue quantity of picks (and the option value they provide). There are too many misses, even at the top of the draft to justify the these costs.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:50 am to SteelerBravesDawg
you do know, fields is the backup, right?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:54 am to Dairy Sanders
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For the rest of the division yeah lol
Please explain how the rest of the division benefits from us getting a solid backup?
How about when we signed the pro bowl ILB?
Or when we instantly improved the QB position with Wilson over Pickett?
Please do explain.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:42 am to Hamma1122
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10-28 as a starter. Garbage!
To be fair to Fields, he was a rookie in 2021 and was Dalton’s backup at the start of the year/wasn’t supposed to start as many games as he did on what was a rebuilding/bad team, but Dalton ended up injured for a decent chunk.
The 2022 roster was horrendous. Worst scoring defense in the league, second-worst yds/play defense in the league. Bad OL, best WR was probably Darnell Mooney (who’s like a mid WR 2 / good WR 3) and every other WR was trash. RBs were decent but not great, Kmet was just okay/on the way to developing into “good” but not quite there yet. Fields was probably anywhere from the second- to fourth-best performer on that team.
Overall, there just wasn’t a huge jump in performance this year, which I think is what led to this. There was a small jump, but not enough for them to (in their opinion) pass on a top QB prospect. He did go 4-3 after the Montez Sweat trade, which is a small sample size, but also shows he’s capable of winning when there’s at least a decent core around him. Passer rating has continued to improve, and DJ Moore seemed to like him as his QB/respect him as his QB more than he did Baker Mayfield.
I think he’s simultaneously overrated by some and underrated by many at the same time. Probably kinda like Dak (who is better than Fields, but I’m comparing the wide variety of perceptions compared to their actual abilities). Just overall weird perceptions in both directions about him.
I think he’s without a doubt one of the best 32 QBs in the NFL, probably closer to around 20th right now, still with potential to get better, but the musical chairs at QB (mainly Cousins going to ATL, they weren’t going to send him in division to MN) and his contract situation led to this trade return/interest around the league. I think the Bears would’ve made the playoffs with him next year (and I feel bad he doesn’t get the opportunity with Keenan Allen and a center that doesn’t suck), and would’ve stuck with him if they just had #9 and not Carolina’s pick at #1 overall. I also think if players/media/fans were robots/it was a computer game, they’d value having Fields on the roster (even with Williams) much much more than the return they got, but wanted a completely clean break before bringing in Williams.
ETA: Clarifier too based on my name. I haven’t been an OSU fan in nearly 15 years. I’ve been a Bears fan since I moved to Chi in 2017, and watched a ton of Fields/Bears in the past three years (including two games this past season in Soldier Field).
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 11:15 am
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