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Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:13 pm
Really great movie for 99%. Didn’t care for the last 5 minutes but the rest of the movie is so good.

This movie has such a delicate balancing act between being a satire and being a family drama and not trying to moralize to the audience and not trying to wallow in melodrama.

Jeffery Wright is amazing. Certainly worth the acting nomination. Everyone else is good too. It’s a very quiet movie that gives all the actors a chance to breathe.

There were some funny moments and some deceptively really funny moments.

I think two things I didn’t quite like or get.

1. The final conversation between Wright and the black female author. I don’t think I get what she was trying to say.

2. The Hollywood satire stuff at the end just felt like for the first time in the entire movie, it was trying to have an extra satirical dig at Hollywood in a way that felt different from the satire in the rest of the movie. Wish the movie would have stayed just cut to black
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73252 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:06 pm to
I really enjoyed it

Multiple laugh at loud moments
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:24 pm to
The brother being a shitty person was glossed over hard and it ruined the whole him being accepted part of the story for me. The half naked dudes and drugs on the day of the wedding was a weird thing to be “accepting” of. They really could've made his arc more worthwhile to me by just making him a better person. The ending was shite too. But the rest of the movie was pretty well executed and it had a great concept
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18984 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:33 pm to
I’m fine with the brother’s storyline. I think we’re seeing it through Monk’s unreliable narration while the rest of the family was so chill because they didn’t see it as he did. Monk alienated himself to the point of misinterpreting the situation
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18984 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:34 pm to
Funniest part for me was when the publisher makes a “blow your brains out” gesture and then remembers Monk’s father blew his brains out
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18984 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:49 pm to
Also, there’s another angle to. For a movie that is very anti-stereotyping…. This movie has received complaints for being homophobic by stereotyping gay people. I think that’s probably intentional in a way to add an extra dimension to just how many layers of stereotyping there are. I can’t say for sure, but I did see some forum talk on other sites about that
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8347 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:55 pm to
I liked it very much, but I will never watch it again. The scenes regarding his mother and her decline hit way too close to home for me. At one point, it was so spot on I thought I might have to walk out.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73252 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

makes a “blow your brains out” gesture and then remembers Monk’s father blew his brains out
yep mine too
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36344 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:58 am to
quote:

brother being a shitty person was glossed over hard and it ruined the whole him being accepted part of the story for me. The half naked dudes and drugs on the day of the wedding was a weird thing to be “accepting” of.


Considering how sharp a lot of the movie was the way they handled the gay brother was pretty clumsy at a minimum.

Acceptance of someone being gay is a much different thing than thinking it makes sense for your geriatric relative to slow dance with the man wearing only a speedo in the kitchen (gay brother's new booty call). It doesn't make any more sense than it would if a middle aged divorced man had strippers hanging around at the next family barbecue.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20927 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:11 am to
The ending didn’t completely land, and I wish the story spent more time on the book/comedy aspect, but still a very good movie.
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7411 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:50 am to
Oh, I loved it, I was entertained from beginning to end. Sterling K Brown’s character was fricking hysterical, and I loved how Monk got everybody to bend over backwards to publish his book that was a joke.

The only part that I didn’t really like was how quickly he moved on from Tracee Ellis Ross’ death. She dies early on in the movie, and the rest of the movie you forget she was even there, he’s not grieving or even really acknowledging the death.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 11:51 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18984 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:00 pm to
All I know on that is in the book, his sister was murdered at her work so that probably is a disconnect between the book and movie
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7411 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:28 pm to
In the movie his sister is someone he’s not super close with, but she comes to pick him up when he lands in Boston and it’s not a spoiler because I mentioned it already but she dies of cancer I believe within the first 20 minutes
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18984 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:04 pm to
Yeah, I saw the movie. I was just reading some criticism from some of the people who were fans of the book and felt the movie changed some elements of the book in some way they felt was important to the book.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10259 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:11 pm to
Very good movie. I loved it
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
5437 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 4:57 am to
I watched this movie last night on Prime and thoroughly enjoyed it. I agree that the ending could have been better - but can live with how they chose to do it.

Jeffrey Wright’s acting was terrific.

The movie actually reminded me a bit of Hollywood Shuffle in its message. I thought it made its point well without being heavy handed.

I also thought there was actually a second layer of the “satire” that he was a writer/professor and his siblings doctors to appease the audience in what was basically a family drama.
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