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re: honest question…why do so many of you soak your yard with chemicals?
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:19 pm to Rick9Plus
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:19 pm to Rick9Plus
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plant a passion flower/fruit vine
I've done this the last few years and have absolutely love the fruit that bears in late summer. Last year was a bust as the vine hardly grew and the gulf fritters arrived and completely wiped it out. I've had it in the same spot and I think the nematodes ate up the root system. This year I'll plant in another spot too see if I have better results. These are just wild ones that grow along fence rows and shite.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:31 pm to Turnblad85
Any info on where ya'll get these? Passion flower/fruit
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
The plant shop attached to Barracuda in BR has a Southern guide book on plants/herbs/flowers/etc. that I almost picked up. That might provide useful info as well.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:38 pm to Mushroom1968
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Any info on where ya'll get these? Passion flower/fruit
I ordered a cutting for the vine off Amazon. Planted it in a giant pot with a tomato cage since it was almost winter when i got it. TBH i probably could have just planted it in the ground because I forgot to bring it in one of the freeze nights and aside from some wilting, it came through fine. Native plants are good for that i guess. I took a few more cuttings and plan to plant them along my back fence soon. I’m not sure what i’ll do with the fruit but i look forward to trying. I guess one thing about having it in a big pot on the patio is it’s harder for pests to get to it. It’s super healthy.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Yeah, if you get takers on the passion flower it will be a shock to see them all. The plant should survive, though.
Yeah, i pretty much bought it to be caterpillar food, like a science experiment, but the plant is pretty big even after 6 months of winter growth, so i’m hoping for fruit.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:51 am to Rick9Plus
Is passion fruit a perennial, also is it native to Louisiana?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:02 pm to Mushroom1968
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Is passion fruit a perennial
Yes. Some varieties are more hearty than others. Some are more cold hearty and can stay green all Winter, unless it is an extended hard freeze. Then they may die back, but come back vigorously in the Spring.
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is it native to Louisiana?
It is. Some varieties are "more native" than others, meaning it is the type that has always grown in the area. Those types are the ideal ones because they are more adapted to your specific area. You can still plant a variety that is a hybrid or from another area in the country, it just may not be as well adapted.
The LNSP has a list of nurseries/growers on their site. You can can check them out and see the variety of passion vines they offer. I looked yesterday and none of them have any for sale right now, but they do show them on their plant lists.
LNSP - Plant and Seed Resources
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:03 pm to Mushroom1968
The ones I find in the wild and grow don't like the cold AT ALL. The green dies back to the root and they dont start sprouting back until april-may. The roots are almost a rhizome like thick tubers. Not a 100% certain but I'm pretty sure they are native. I think the indian's thought eating the fruit gave them wood. But then again it seems like the indians thought most everything was an aphrodisiac.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:50 pm to Turnblad85
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I have to assume that some amount of the chemicals runs off into creeks/river/bays. How bad they are, if at all, I don't know. I don't trust Bayer, et al to fully tell us the long-term affects or if they even know or if they'd rather not even know.
I know if I use as little chemical as possible, then that much less of potentially harmful stuff ends up in creeks and rivers where our kids and their kids will hopefully play.
We all enjoy plenty of food at relatively cheap prices in large part because of farmers utilizing chemicals. I assume the farmers are using it as judicially as possible for reasons of cost and label requirements. Just a necessary evil.
Now joe-blow homeowner mixing talstar at 10x the recommended rate and spraying everything down in his yard because he saw a mosquito might not be doing the environment any favors.
Not scientific, but it's a known fact that aquatic species are indicator species of gauging pollution levels. Tadpoles, for example.
Our neighborhood lake is 4.5 acres with a drainage basin of 92 acres. About 50% of that drainage basin is manicured bermuda with all kinds of chemicals. And those homes date back to the 90's.
25+ years of runoff into this pond, and it is teeming with life. Millions of tadpoles every spring, millions of frogs too. Turtles. Snakes. Blue Herons. Kingfishers. Huge fish. Small fish. Too many fish to be honest, for the pond's size.
None of that runoff has done anything to hurt the creatures in that lake. In fact, perhaps a little fertilizer runoff is a good thing for plankton, the foundation of the food chain.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:18 pm to reauxl tigers
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This is a weird thread
It really isn't.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
if anyone wants maypop I have thousands
it comes up everywhere but it dies down nicely when it freezes
Beautiful flowers and edible fruit
it comes up everywhere but it dies down nicely when it freezes
Beautiful flowers and edible fruit
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
bee balms, milkweed, Turks cap, spiderwort and button bush I’m buying already and gonna add passion fruit to the list. Thanks
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:14 pm to Mushroom1968
Careful with the bee balm, it is in the mint family and spreads easily. It smells great and will attract all sorts of pollinators, just put it somewhere that you can keep it hemmed up if you don't want it taking over a spot.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:49 pm to cgrand
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What is it about monoculture that is so appealing? How is fighting a losing battle time or cost effective? Where in the natural world is there ever a zero sum outcome?
Tell us about the straw hut you live in and how often you have to replace the walls.
Tell us about the concrete parking lot you demolished to allow Mother Earth to cool and get a drink of water.
Tell us how you gave up your vehicle for a horse and buggy.
Tell us how you only drink rain water and have completely moved off the grid.
Then tell us how you plan to never use the internet again.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:33 pm to Turnblad85
Passion flower actually gets its name from Christianity.
ETA i don’t think the native American name is known. I guess each tribe would have their own name for it in their particular language.
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The genus Passiflora was named after Jesuit priests found the first specimen in South America. They thought the plant resembled a vision described by St. Francis of Assisi - a vine crawling up the cross where Jesus was crucified. They found religious meaning relating to Jesus' death in all the parts of the flower: 10 petals and sepals represented all the apostles except Judas and Peter, 5 stamens represented the 5 wounds, climbing tendrils represented scourges to beat Jesus, etc.
ETA i don’t think the native American name is known. I guess each tribe would have their own name for it in their particular language.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:30 pm to cgrand
I’ll bet you have a picture of Al Gore above the mantle.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:34 pm to Commander Rabb
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I'll bet you have a picture of Al Gore above the mantle.
That's a pretty ignorant statement, and you seem so proud of it.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:54 pm to cgrand
The only time I’ve “soaked” my yard was when I purchased the neglected property 10 yrs ago. Since then with proper fertilization, ph control and mowing height, I occasionally only have to spot treat.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:31 am to cgrand
Do you want an honest answer?
It’s a dumb question… Why do you cut your hair? Mother Nature intended for it to grow freely.
Why do you cut your grass? Mother Nature intended for it to grow.
Why did you most likely cut trees down to build your home? Mother Nature wanted those trees there.
It’s a dumb question… Why do you cut your hair? Mother Nature intended for it to grow freely.
Why do you cut your grass? Mother Nature intended for it to grow.
Why did you most likely cut trees down to build your home? Mother Nature wanted those trees there.
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