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NYT Scoop about CIA Ukraine bases was done as 200 interviews inside actual CIA buildings

Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:08 pm
The CIA invited the NYT reporter to the Ukraine to conduct some 200 or so interviews from inside one of the 12 Ukraine located CIA bases/buildings.

Wonder if he had to be blind folded in the back of a van to get admission to building?

Mike Benz on X

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2. "This is a dirty trick by our Central Intelligence Agency to use the New York Times as its own personal mouthpiece, to protect its own personal piggy bank." This is the selective leaking of intelligence just to get short-term funding. The key paragraph in the NYT piece gives away the game that the bases are all praying for more funding. The whole article is about how important these CIA bases have become and what catastrophe will befall them if Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson vetoes the hotly contested new Ukraine funding bill.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:09 pm to
The CIA has been pulling a psyop on this country for many years...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:11 pm to
I am still wondering why they decided to do this.
Posted by joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:11 pm to
Why.
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Why.

To create the image that the funds for Ukraine are desperately needed and put pressure on Mike Johnson to get it done. That's the only argument I see at this point.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:16 pm to
This is the most logical explanation I've seen about how the complicit NYT would be involved in revealing something like this that has been limited to less traditional media outlets.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:16 pm to
The NYT reporter is probably on the payroll.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:47 pm to
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This is the most logical explanation I've seen about how the complicit NYT would be involved in revealing something like this that has been limited to less traditional media outlets.


I never saw this is some big earth shaking story. Everyone knew the CIA was inside of Ukraine.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Everyone knew the CIA was inside of Ukraine.

Absolutely. Ray Charles could see as much.

The bigger question in my mind was why was the NYT "bold enough" to go there. CIA clandestine operations have been off the menu for the MSM to go after.

Factor in that the NYT is traditionally the FBI newsletter, while the WaPo carries the water for the CIA, it was a curious arrangement from top to bottom.

Seeing now that it's a play by Langley to get some black budget money that's baked into this Everyone's-Border-Except-the-US border security bill, it make much more sense.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:07 pm to
The article trolled Trump saying Bolton and Pompeo visited this spy base right under Trump's nose.
Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:48 pm to
LINK this blogger has an interesting take. worth a read.
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to
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this blogger has an interesting take. worth a read.


That is a good read, thank you for posting. He could be on to something with his theories-

-someone was going to leak info and cia wanted to get ahead of it
-war is lost but they also burned the Ukraine spy chief identity

Ukraine spy chief backing cause of death being natural kills the US cover story for invading and extra money.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45882 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:21 pm to
Why arent these leakers getting lined up in front of a firing squad as we speak?

Trump is facing 400 years in jail for keeping a fricking birthday card from Shinzo Abe.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:58 pm to
The US’s Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) maintains 12 secret bases in Ukraine along the border with Russia, and last Thursday CIA chief William Burns made his 10th secret visit to Ukraine since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion.

The Times is now reporting the USA (State Dept.) was responsible for the coup in Ukraine (color revolution) and took control over political operations in 2014. We have long suspected this; many have reported exactly this reality; however, this is the first time it has all been admitted.

LINK
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:04 pm to
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The Times is now reporting the USA (State Dept.) was responsible for the coup in Ukraine (color revolution) and took control over political operations in 2014. We have long suspected this; many have reported exactly this reality; however, this is the first time it has all been admitted.


Yeah, it's what most of us already knew. Oliver Stone did 2 documentaries on it:

Becoming Ukraine and Ukraine on Fire. Simply proves him right when many laughed at him and called it a conspiracy theory.

Posted by teke184
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:05 pm to
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Becoming Ukraine and Ukraine on Fire. Simply proves him right when many laughed at him and called it a conspiracy theory.



Stone has such a history of being full of shite that it was a good guess
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:30 pm to
I was just coming to give Oliver Stone full credit and saw your reply. For awhile you could only view Ukraine on Fire on Rumble because YT, old twitter censored it off.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:32 pm to
Oliver Stone? I don't think his work was ever FOS. His JFK doc was spot on.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:17 pm to
Here was Taibbi's theory.
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CIA, Ukraine Exchange Pre-Divorce Propaganda

A New York Times exposé outs years of unsavory details about the Ukraine's relationship with the CIA, while a Ukrainian spy chief swats down U.S. messaging. Is a breakup at hand?

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When intelligence sources line up by the hundred to fill newspapers with “secret” details, they’re almost always doing one of two things: spreading disinformation, or “pre-bunking” embarrassing future revelations. The lavishly overwritten “secret untold story” that puts advance spin on ugly leaks has become a popular genre across this century’s many giant intelligence screwups.

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The theme of Ukrainians free-lancing the bloody stuff (especially before the war) is prominent. Also noticeable: the bulk of the article’s detailed revelations come from the Brennan era, and Brennan is to an almost humorous degree the hero of the article, displaying Atlas-like resolve, reining in Ukrainian savages on one side of the world while keeping the pusillanimous Obama from losing his nerve on the other.

Meanwhile, on the same day the Times piece came out, aforementioned defense intelligence chief Budanov gave an extraordinary impromptu interview. Asked about the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, Budanov said, “I may disappoint you, but we know he died from a blood clot. It’s more or less confirmed. This is not taken from the Internet.”

The comments were a missile up America’s messaging backside. Since February 16th, when Russia’s RIA-Novosti reported Navalny died in custody in Siberia, Americans lined up to call it murder. “Putin killed Navalny, let’s be crystal clear,” said former Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, echoing sentiments by the likes of David Axelrod and Zelig-like financier Bill Browder, who seems to be in the background of every Russia/Ukraine controversy. Joe Biden announced 500 new sanctions, saying, “Make no mistake: Putin is responsible for Navalny’s death,” while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was more direct: “It is obvious that he was killed by Putin.”

Not so fast, said Budanov, who also knocked down another Russia-panic story. Last week, Reuters cited six sources in reporting that “Iran has provided Russia with a large number of powerful surface-to-surface ballistic missiles.” The tale was instantly converted to a talking point in the ongoing campaign to convince Congress of the urgency of passing a $61 billion aid bill for Ukraine by a Friday deadline. CNBC quoted an analyst saying Iranian weapons kept Russia fighting in Ukraine for “much longer than expected,” but “meanwhile, the future of U.S. military aid for Ukraine looks increasingly uncertain.”

Budankov responded to this by saying the Iranian missiles “are not here” and such information “does not correspond with reality.” He also contradicted statements about Russia deploying North Korean missiles, another recent American fixation. Just last week, “intelligence officials in Washington” told CNN they were “increasingly concerned” about “growing ties” between the two nations, pointing to the missiles while reiterating the need for more funding to combat this new Axis of Evil:

While Russia continues to be supplied by North Korea and Iran the Biden administration has been unable to send new weaponry… because Congress has not approved the required supplemental funding.

Budanov shrugged this news off, too. “While a few North Korean missiles were utilized,” he said, “assertions of widespread use do not hold true.”

It might be coincidence that a Ukrainian intelligence official descibed in a New York Times article as a loose cannon who led a “disaster” of a commando raid just jammed three fingers in Washington’s eye in less than a week. Either way, it’s clear there’s anxiety in Washington about fallout from an interruption of the US-Ukraine security project. Especially in an election year, any war of words between the erstwhile allies could get ugly in a heartbeat.

LINK
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:20 pm to
In a competition for the more untrustworthy these 2 would break the scales.
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