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re: Trey Holly posts about his innocence on IG

Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 am to
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 am to
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That said, not too many people happen to randomly be at a murder scene just randomly


I don’t know if he’s innocent or not, but there are very often random people who just happen to be around when a murder happens.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263354 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:03 am to
Yeah, I am not gonna condemn the guy based on being booked. Lets see what happens here.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
4219 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:03 am to
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Both victims survived That's what I thought


I mean his statement said someone was murdered. That typically implies that at least 1 person didn’t survive.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263354 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:06 am to
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Yeah, you must have not read the original thread


Youre an idiot.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
4219 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:09 am to
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While that is true in court, it has never been true in the court of public opinion. Unfortunately, in many cases.


Yep. See OK Simpson. He was acquitted. But…..
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:09 am to
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If you are truly innocent, then you should scream it loudly and publicly, every single chance you get.
No. you should shut the hell up, period. Whether you are innocent or guilty
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31260 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:13 am to
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If you are truly innocent, then you should scream it loudly and publicly, every single chance you get.

No. you should shut the hell up, period. Whether you are innocent or guilty



You should follow the advice of your attorney. If they think a public statement is a good idea, they will advise you and possibly draw up or review what you will say before you post it or read it.
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
900 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:13 am to
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but after being on a jury in a somewhat complicated and lengthy civil trial 20 years ago I can assure you there are plenty of innocent people in prison after being in that jury room discussing the case.



A lengthy and complicated "civil" jury trial 20 years ago? I can see why you consider yourself an expert for assuring us that "criminal" jury trials result in unjust convictions.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:14 am to
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So many idiots will look dumb and racist when he’s found not guilty
So you think the shooter is actually white?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:15 am to
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You should follow the advice of your attorney. If they think a public statement is a good idea, they will advise you and possibly draw up or review what you will say before you post it or read it.
If you think that post is an attorneys statement lol

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31260 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:19 am to
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Probably not wise to go on IG and talk about an impending murder trial



Don't know why you're being downvoted. I'm sure he's talked to a lawyer. I'm also sure he was told, quite explicitly, NOT to do this exact thing.



That statement is an unequivocal statement of innocence with the basic concept of a defense written in it. It reads like it was vetted or even partially prepared by his lawyer. So I suspect you are wrong about him being told explicitly not to do this.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31099 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:20 am to
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They seem to do this a lot. Would not surprise me at all if this was a false arrest.


I love when people forget that judges sign arrest warrants and just want to blame cops. Maybe yall need to pay attention to who you elect.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:21 am to
The arrest took almost a full week to happen after the shooting. So, this wasn’t a rushed arrest. There are clearly ballsitics, witness statements, etc

Could he be innocent? Of course. But man it feels like a stretch. This isn’t a shooting where nobody was around and they are using pieces of evidence. Multiple witnesses and perps involved
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:23 am to
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That statement is an unequivocal statement of innocence with the basic concept of a defense written in it. It reads like it was vetted or even partially prepared by his lawyer. So I suspect you are wrong about him being told explicitly not to do this.
The statement is so unclear it makes it sound like the shooting happened in Hollys own home while he was there. If attorney vetted that he is the worst attorney of all time
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31260 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:23 am to
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quote:

You should follow the advice of your attorney. If they think a public statement is a good idea, they will advise you and possibly draw up or review what you will say before you post it or read it.

If you think that post is an attorneys statement lol



While I did not say that in the post you responded to, I would say that part of it looks like it could have been and part of it does not but none of it looks like anything that gives the prosecution any ammo or hurts the defense.

Are you disagreeing with my statement that you should follow the advice of your attorney on those sorts of statements? Do you think attorneys do not try to use the media and social media to affect the public perception of the case?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
5039 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:23 am to
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Dude, you answered your own question. He doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. The prosecution has to prove he’s guilty. That’s the way it works.

While I agree. Unfortunately several trials go the exact opposite
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31260 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:24 am to
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The statement is so unclear it makes it sound like the shooting happened in Hollys own home while he was there.


That is true and that is what I took it to mean. I do not know the particulars of where the shooting took place. If it did not take place at his home, then you are correct, that is not a well written statement at all.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136975 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:26 am to
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judges sign arrest warrants


I do believe this would be the judge in this scenario. Hon. Monique Clement.

LINK ).
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:41 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:28 am to
Also, only one of the shooting victims is in critical condition. The second victim was shot in the leg and is completely coherent and stable

So people thinking the cops are going rogue are a little foolish. They are kinda using the words of the person who was shot….

For those unaware, this isn’t a random act or burglary situation. It’s known parties. So, for Holly to be innocent, the person actually shot and the witnesses are all lying to the police about him being the shooter AND someone stole his gun to do the shooting
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7666 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:36 am to
I pray to God he wasn't involved. This kid has shown so much damn potential for more than just football. He cares about his hometown and wants to better it. I pray and I pray he is innocent.
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