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re: JFK....Did Oswald Act Alone?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:36 am to Torbemsti80
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:36 am to Torbemsti80
Mick said it was you and me.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:20 am to Nutriaitch
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there wasn't a single shot they attempted from anywhere other than the book depository that didn't inflict major wounds that we know didn't happen. most of the ones they tried from the grassy knoll would also have killed or at least severely wounded Jackie (which we know didn't happen). all of the ones from farther forward would have also shattered the windshield (which we know didn't happen).
This.
Anyone that would have shot from the grassy knoll would have also hit Jackie. The shots that hit Kennedy came from the back. The front of his skull getting blown out is an exit wound.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:23 am to Torbemsti80
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JFK....Did Oswald Act Alone?
Oswald was exactly who he said he was, a patsy.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:57 am to Pandy Fackler
This argument-
Does not prove this argument-
It is a fact that LHO claimed he was a “patsy” - which would mean he wasn’t “in charge” of killing Kennedy, but was the guy picked to take the fall.
Ok….so if the deep state you describe wants to kill him without implicating itself,
they find a “patsy” and who do you choose-
Now, with that said, maybe LHO was just some nut who happened to have the means and opportunity to carry it out all by himself, and got lucky.
Of course, then you get into why Jack Ruby just decided to shoot him…
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because any self respecting "deep state" that's worth a shite would never put the likes of Lee Harvey Oswald in charge of killing the most powerful man in the world.
Does not prove this argument-
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Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and got lucky.
It is a fact that LHO claimed he was a “patsy” - which would mean he wasn’t “in charge” of killing Kennedy, but was the guy picked to take the fall.
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So let's say you're the deep state. You have near unlimited financial resources. At your disposal you have access to the most cunning minds in intelligence, espionage and all manner of cloak and dagger bullshite. You have the power to reach anyone in the world and snuff them out quietly and without any hint at all of foul play, or you can make it as messy as you want. You have access to the most professional and elite killers
Ok….so if the deep state you describe wants to kill him without implicating itself,
they find a “patsy” and who do you choose-
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Why you choose a dipshit, that's who. You choose a guy who has failed at everything he's ever done. You choose a malcontent. An Aspergery loser. You put the culmination of everything you've planned into the hands of Lee Harvey Oswald and then you set him up with a near impossible situation to be successful. What sort of fricked up "deep state" would go this route?
Now, with that said, maybe LHO was just some nut who happened to have the means and opportunity to carry it out all by himself, and got lucky.
Of course, then you get into why Jack Ruby just decided to shoot him…
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:25 am to Torbemsti80
Oswald never fired a shot
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:26 am to Patfic15
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Who knows...who cares...
Go back to sleep.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:35 am to TDsngumbo
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but seeing what the government has done to Donald Trump over the past 7 years,
LMAO
Trump parlayed a caricature of himself created for a reality TV show into a presidential campaign, becoming so enthralled in it that it is what he actually became.
The idea that “the government“ or “the deep state“ is out to get him because he is some heroic champion of good and righteousness facing off against them is a story that he and his looney tune followers created.
Grown-ups have always realized who and what he is. True Conservatives disdain him because he is unhinged, but they can’t afford to piss off their massive base of Wal Mart Republicans who love him as their champion of dog-whistle wedge issue politics. They hoped that given enough rope he would just hang himself, but the more absurd he became, the more he endeared himself to that base.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:52 am to lsusa
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Trump parlayed a caricature of himself created for a reality TV show into a presidential campaign, becoming so enthralled in it that it is what he actually became. The idea that “the government“ or “the deep state“ is out to get him because he is some heroic champion of good and righteousness facing off against them is a story that he and his looney tune followers created. Grown-ups have always realized who and what he is. True Conservatives disdain him because he is unhinged, but they can’t afford to piss off their massive base of Wal Mart Republicans who love him as their champion of dog-whistle wedge issue politics. They hoped that given enough rope he would just hang himself, but the more absurd he became, the more he endeared himself to that base.
Mic drop. This was perfectly said.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:11 am to Nutriaitch
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all of the ones from farther forward would have also shattered the windshield (which we know didn't happen)
The windshield reportedly had a bullet hole in it.
They threw the windshield away.
Who throws away the windshield from the car the POTUS was assassinated in?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:51 am to DRMPHD
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They ultimately concluded Oswald acted alone.
then this podcast is not based in fact
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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My biggest problem with the notion of Oswald acting alone is the fact he had to fire at the President from behind. I’ve seen interviewed with the ER doctors in Dallas who all testified the back of the President’s head was blown out. Then there is the film showing the back of his head indeed being blown out. That doesn’t happen when you’re shot from behind, only when you’re shot from the front.
Several issues have come up on this since the declassification of the files.
1. The back of the head being blown out was most likely an exit wound. The head was put back together for the autopsy photos and made to look much smaller that it really was. A third of his brain mass was missing. The autopsy photo shows an intact brain set aside. Additionally, one of the ER physicians did a tracheotomy on JFK by enlarging a hole that was already there in his throat. This info was missed by many because it was assumed to be just a trach hole. The doctor testified at a later commission that the hole was an entry wound. He was not asked by the Warren Commission.
2. All the autopsy notes were destroyed before the Warren commission.
3. The rifle that Oswald was known to own and had personal photos was not the same gun shown to the public after the assasination. There were several differences including the assasin gun was 4" longer and had side clips for carrying strap as opposed to bottom clips on Oswald's gun
4. The single biggest piece of fabricated evidence was the pristine bullet. The bullet was recovered by a janitor in the hospital from the gurney Kennedy was transported on. The single bullet theory put forth by the Warren commision which is impossible puoports that the pristine bullet went through Kennedy and John Connelly (twice) and hit multiple bones in both. Forensics attempted to remake the pristine bullet by firing the weapon and identical bullets into cadavers and every bullet that hit bone came out unreconizable compared to the pristine bullet.
5. The evidence chain of custody for the pristine bullet was fabricated and does not agree with any testimony of the people on the COC list (said they never had it).
6. The single bullet theory was so important to LHO being the lone gunman because only 3 shell casings were recovered. The other two bullets are accounted for and the remaining bullet has to hit both JFK and JC because if not there had to be a minimum of a 4th bullet and hence two gunmen.
A lot has been learned since the files were declassified in 2017.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:54 pm to Torbemsti80
yes he acted alone.
its worth the time to watch this documentary that goes through all of the evidence, testimonies, conspiracy theories, and facts:
part 1:
oswald acted alone part 1
part 2:
oswald acted alone part 2
its worth the time to watch this documentary that goes through all of the evidence, testimonies, conspiracy theories, and facts:
part 1:
oswald acted alone part 1
part 2:
oswald acted alone part 2
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:05 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Oswald acted completely alone
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SoFla Tideroller
I close my case ladies and gentlemen
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