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re: JFK....Did Oswald Act Alone?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:34 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:34 pm to dgnx6
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The wave of internet detectives and true crime pods and all that non sense says otherwise.
This is such a bs take.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Ok fine.
Let's go with the so called Deep State. Forget the mob, forget the KGB.
Let's say this well organized secret cabal of shadowy, powerful men engineered this. Maybe an alliance of CIA power players, wealthy military industrial types and first generation globalists decide they want the most powerful man alive, at the height of the cold war dead.
They go through careful, secretive planning. Get everything down to the last detail. Other than whispers here and there, they manage to ensure utter silence from all involved.
And then what do they do? They take all of their resources, all of their careful and meticulous planning. All of their hopes for success and put it in the hands of who?
Lee Harvey Oswald, that's who. A disaffected malcontent, who was the 60's version of an incel or some sort of post office shooter. A moron. A failure at everything he tried to be in life. A man who had no success at anything. But this powerful group of elites is gonna say "Here Harv, you got this. Go get 'em".
Yeah, sure.
What the frick's the matter with people who believe this nutty shite?
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 4:46 pm
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:56 pm to Torbemsti80
JFK was hit by rounds from two different directions. No doubt.
Now, who shot? Open question.
Now, who shot? Open question.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:00 pm to Torbemsti80
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:05 pm to Torbemsti80
If it was as easily explained as one loser going to the Soviet Union then coming back, ordering a shitty rifle, and popping off three shots in rapid succession at that distance and hitting all three…. Then why is everything still classified ?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:10 pm to Torbemsti80
Oswald's wife Marina and Ruth Paine, the lady Marina lived with, were invited to visit with a neighbor. Another neighbor was there (Linnie Randall) who suggested that they see if the Book Depository had a job opening for Lee, as her brother had recently been hired there.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:12 pm to kingbob
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Better question: did Oswald act at all?
If he didn’t then why did he leave the Depository and kill JD Tippet?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:17 pm to Tigers0891
He missed the first shot. The rifle was cheap, not shitty.
We'll never know why he missed the first shot. I wonder if he was using the scope on the first shot and when it missed he used the iron sights for his last two shots. After all, in the Marines he shot an M1.
But it could have been any number of things, nerves, an obstruction, just not ready yet, etc.
We'll never know why he missed the first shot. I wonder if he was using the scope on the first shot and when it missed he used the iron sights for his last two shots. After all, in the Marines he shot an M1.
But it could have been any number of things, nerves, an obstruction, just not ready yet, etc.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:14 pm to Longhorn Actual
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"Act alone" as in pulled the trigger alone? Sure, why not.
"Act alone" as in plan the whole thing, train for it, then execute it on his own? The CIA/Deep State says hi.
Alrighty then.
So let's say you're the deep state. You have near unlimited financial resources. At your disposal you have access to the most cunning minds in intelligence, espionage and all manner of cloak and dagger bullshite. You have the power to reach anyone in the world and snuff them out quietly and without any hint at all of foul play, or you can make it as messy as you want.
You have access to the most professional and elite killers in the world to brain wash but who do you choose as your Manchurian Candidate? Who do you choose to carry the weight of all of your careful planning and cunning? Who do you choose as the very tip of your spear?
Why you choose a dipshit, that's who. You choose a guy who has failed at everything he's ever done. You choose a malcontent. An Aspergery loser. You put the culmination of everything you've planned into the hands of Lee Harvey Oswald and then you set him up with a near impossible situation to be successful. What sort of fricked up "deep state" would go this route?
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and got lucky. And we know this because any self respecting "deep state" that's worth a shite would never put the likes of Lee Harvey Oswald in charge of killing the most powerful man in the world.
That would be like putting the OT in charge of it.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:17 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:do you know how many governments the CIA has overthrown? Wouldn’t it have been easy to do it at home?
Maybe an alliance of CIA power players,
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:23 pm to GreenRockTiger
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do you know how many governments the CIA has overthrown? Wouldn’t it have been easy to do it at home
See the above post.
Out of all the Manchurian Candidate's you could've possibly chosen to kill the most powerful man in the world, you would choose Lee Harvey Oswald?
You're the CIA, you have pick of the litter. You can choose the most elite and professional killers in the world to brain wash but instead you choose a pissed off, incompetent and Fuddish malcontent?
Ok.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:25 pm to Torbemsti80
He was a patsy man. Get with the program!
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:26 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:who is to say that Oswald wasn’t?
You're the CIA, you have pick of the litter.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:28 pm to RFK
Maybe you should go back to lurking.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:40 pm to Torbemsti80
I went on the tour of the book depository with my family a few years ago. I am a bit of a firearm enthusiast, lifelong hunter, and generally regarded as an excellent marksman.
I don’t see how that shot was possible without some very very serious training. If it was him, and only him- he was just very lucky.
I don’t see how that shot was possible without some very very serious training. If it was him, and only him- he was just very lucky.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:41 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
What the frick's the matter with people who believe this nutty shite?
Like the House Select Committee that determined there was a conspiracy?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:44 pm to subMOA
quote:I don’t see why he just didn’t shoot JFK in the forehead as he was coming towards the book depository
I don’t see how that shot was possible without some very very serious training.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:45 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:
quote:
You're the CIA, you have pick of the litter.
who is to say that Oswald wasn’t?
Ok. I like that question.
If Lee Harvey Oswald was the CIA's pick of the litter. If he was the best Manchurian Candidate they could possibly brain wash to kill the President of the United States of America. Then we have nothing to fear from the deep state.
Just imagine for a moment the crazy, whacked out shite everyone would convince themselves of had John Hinckley simply killed himself while in custody.
The Hinckley/Regan story is a boring one. It's a snoozer and we have no where to go with it. But the dead Hinckley/Regan story is filled with all sorts of conspiratorial possibilities. Too bad John Hinckley is still alive. And on that note, too bad Sirhan Sirhan will die in prison. Imagine the fun we could have with that one if he would've been shanked right after he went in.
Well all of that conspiratorial fun is alive and well with Oswald and Kennedy. All because of a strip club owner who had a fetish for the President's wife.
Oswald acted alone.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:46 pm to Pandy Fackler
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You're the CIA, you have pick of the litter. You can choose the most elite and professional killers in thee world to brain wash but instead you choose a pissed off, incompetent and Fuddish malcontent?
The same deep state that orchestrated the second gulf war on trumped up intelligence, used Alexander Vindman to go after Trump, blew Iran Contra, blew the bay of pigs. They are always caught between best bets and plausible deniability. Their MO has never been most likely suspect to be fed to the wolves.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:47 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:no - then why didn’t he take the easy shot?
Oswald acted alone.
Plus, my family was friends with Garrison, and we’ve always believed him.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:51 pm to Torbemsti80
LBJ had JFK assassinated. Oswald was a spook and a patsy.
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