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Andrew Lopez with the Point Zion (Trademarked) stats
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:44 pm
From @ESPNStatsInfo: Zion brought the ball up the floor for 20 chances tonight. Pels averaged 2.06 points per possession on those.
According to Second Spectrum, that is the 2nd-highest efficiency for any player in a game this season when bringing the ball up for 15+ possessions.
Andrew Lopez on Twitter
Maybe it really is just that simple?
According to Second Spectrum, that is the 2nd-highest efficiency for any player in a game this season when bringing the ball up for 15+ possessions.
Andrew Lopez on Twitter
Maybe it really is just that simple?
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:56 pm to Terrific Tales
Lol do you know the highest this season?
Naji Marshall v Spurs lol
Naji Marshall v Spurs lol
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:10 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:22 am to Pels_Yaz
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Lol do you know the highest this season? Naji Marshall v Spurs lol
Idk if it’s more surprising that 1st is Naji or that Naji brought the ball up 15 times in a game lmfao
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:46 am to Pels_Yaz
What happens teams pressure the ball?
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:47 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:09 am to Aussie_Pelican
The same thing that happened last year when teams tried to pressure the ball when Zion played point. Zion dealt with it and became a MVP candidate.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:34 am to Aussie_Pelican
Did you just start watching the Pelicans this year? You continue to act like Zion is incapable of being the offensive fulcrum of this team when before this year his only issue has been health. He has done historic things in every season when healthy but for some unfathomable reason this team decided to go away from that this season. The success of point Zion isn’t new and shouldn’t be met with cynicism. It should be celebrated that this staff is finally leaning into its best player again.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:40 am to ThePistol
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He has done historic things in every season when healthy but for some unfathomable reason this team decided to go away from that this season. The success of point Zion isn’t new and shouldn’t be met with cynicism. It should be celebrated that this staff is finally leaning into its best player again
I want to push back on the reason being “unfathomable”
It’s obvious what the reason is. Zion’s conditioning early in the season was not great, which is not uncommon for a guy returning from injury. The team knew that and wanted to handle things carefully, given ya know, the past 4 Zion seasons.
He looks better now so they’re started to give him the keys to the car. Makes sense to me?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:32 am to DallasTiger45
Unfathomable comes from it taking 40+ games. It also comes from all of the offseason and preseason camp quotes about BI having the ball and being the playmaker. 20ish games would have been about the number to let Zion get his legs under him. But none of that matters if we head in the right direction from now on.
I do agree that it is obvious they have been load managing Zion thus far this season. He is only playing 6 minutes at a time. They have kept him out for entire fourth quarters in games with leads. The hope is that they now ramp him up to at least 36 minutes a game with a slightly higher usage while he stays healthy. I think we can all agree that is the path to the team reaching its ceiling.
I do agree that it is obvious they have been load managing Zion thus far this season. He is only playing 6 minutes at a time. They have kept him out for entire fourth quarters in games with leads. The hope is that they now ramp him up to at least 36 minutes a game with a slightly higher usage while he stays healthy. I think we can all agree that is the path to the team reaching its ceiling.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:43 am to DallasTiger45
There have been legit reasons to doubt Zion,
but last night showed what is possible with his talent. I’m all in if
he keeps it up.
but last night showed what is possible with his talent. I’m all in if
he keeps it up.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:44 am to Terrific Tales
Who could have possibly thought Point Zion would work?
Certainly, none of us!
Certainly, none of us!
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:22 pm to shel311
The only logical reason I can see of them not doing this since game 1 better be because of Zion’s conditioning. If it isn’t and they just want to “expirement” after 50 games then Willie is a fricking idiot
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:06 pm to Terrific Tales
My glass-half-full theory is that they told Zion if he wants the ball in his hands, he needs to get in shape.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:20 pm to Terrific Tales
What’s great about Point Zion is it makes everyone on the court with him better.
To me that is ultimately what puts a ceiling on Ingram and allows Zion to, in theory, reach true elite status. Zion at his best makes everyone else on the court with him much better.
He just needs to be in much better shape to play Point Zion for long stretches and also not be a turnstile on defense.
To me that is ultimately what puts a ceiling on Ingram and allows Zion to, in theory, reach true elite status. Zion at his best makes everyone else on the court with him much better.
He just needs to be in much better shape to play Point Zion for long stretches and also not be a turnstile on defense.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 3:23 pm to Terrific Tales
As seen on Twitter today, pelicans are shooting 40.5% from 3 on passes from Zion.
Point Zion plus shooters. If those shooters can defend and rebound you might win a title.
Point Zion plus shooters. If those shooters can defend and rebound you might win a title.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 3:34 pm to ned nederlander
quote:Which ranks #1 in the NBA
As seen on Twitter today, pelicans are shooting 40.5% from 3 on passes from Zion.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:16 pm to shel311
Probably because he pulls people in to defend opening the outside. Great stat there.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:17 pm to shel311
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Which ranks #1 in the NBA
I wonder what the splits are for how wide open individual shooters are when zion passes. Dudes like CJ and Trey seem wide the frick open off his passes.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:21 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Generally, I think the number is something like 85-90% of 3s taken in the NBA are considered wide open.
I wonder what the splits are for how wide open individual shooters are when zion passes. Dudes like CJ and Trey seem wide the frick open off his passes.
So not sure how helpful that would be, but maybe more so volume of 3s taken off of passes from a guy is or may be the best number to go off of?
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