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CNN - What broke the American Dream for millennials.

Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:04 pm
I have no real comment on this other than "vibecession" seems like gaslighting.
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Rachael Gambino and Garrett Mazzeo planned their financial life by the book: They went to college, paid down debt, saved aggressively, got married, bought a house, started a family. The dream.

But sitting at the kitchen table of their suburban Pennsylvania home — an asset they feel both lucky to own and also somewhat trapped by — they say they wouldn’t do it all over again quite the same way.

For their nine-month-old son, Miles, Rachael and Garrett agree: They’re not going to push him to pursue the same path.

“I think a lot of Millennials were forced into saying, ‘you need a four-year degree in order to be successful,’” says Rachael, who is 33. “At 18, you’re signing up to be $100,000 in debt before you even really know how to make the best decisions for yourself. I think we need to change that narrative.”

Rachael and Garrett know how lucky they are, both having steady work and parents whom they were able to live with temporarily while they saved for a down payment. Critically, they also have a tenant: Rachael’s younger sister, Kristen Gambino, 26, moved in shortly after they bought the house in 2022, helping them pay the mortgage while saving herself from an increasingly unaffordable rental market.

But the couple still feels like they’re on a knife’s edge. Their day-to-day lives are dictated by a spreadsheet where Garrett, 35, meticulously manages every dollar coming in and out.

“This is the American Dream,” Rachael says. “But at what cost? What are we paying for the American Dream now?”

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From one crisis to the next
There’s a perception so prevalent in post-Covid America it’s practically become a cliché: The economy is good but the vibes are bad.

Having skirted an actual recession last year, we entered a vibecession in which virtually all economic data suggests the United States is thriving, but people aren’t quite feeling the effects.

In a CNN poll conducted last month, a stunning 71% of Americans said economic conditions in the country were “poor,” with 38% calling them “very poor.” And that’s somehow better than in the summer of 2022, when 82% said the economy was poor.

The culprits behind the bad vibes are obvious: high prices, an impenetrable housing market, persistent inequality, rising debt.

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But less talked about are the financial resentments that have calcified in the psyche of the nation’s most populous generation over the last quarter-century. For Millennials, hit with two world-altering economic downturns before their 40th birthdays, bad vibes come standard.

Even as Millennials have made up significant ground in terms of wealth over the past four years, according to Brendan Duke, senior director for economic policy at the Center for American Progress, that shift only came after more than a decade of stagnant wages and more or less flat wealth accumulation.

They are the most educated generation in US history, but it didn’t come cheap.

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The generational wealth gap
For years, Millennials, now ages of 27 to 42, have lagged behind their Baby Boomer parents and Gen X counterparts in accumulating wealth.

Most were raised in the economic idyll of the 1990s, one of the longest recorded economic expansions in US history. But by the time they graduated college, their world had been turned upside down by the Great Recession.

Older Millennials entered the job market just as Corporate America was coming off its hinges in the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

The 2008-2009 recession made entry-level jobs scarce. It also pushed older workers to put off retirement, gumming up the corporate path for younger workers. For years after the recession was technically over, unemployment remained higher than its pre-recession 2007 level, and wages stagnated. Critics of the Obama administration dubbed the decade following the Great Recession “the barbecue economy” because the recovery was low and slow.

The result was a Millennial wealth gap that was larger, relative to other generations. By 2016, families headed by 1980s-born Millennials were about 34% below “wealth expectations” — the level economists would have predicted them to reach based on where earlier generations were at the same age, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.

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The nest egg myth
A common refrain Millennials heard from their Boomer parents is that buying is always better than renting. That advice is now out of date.

Central to the pitch of the American Dream is a house. Homeownership, the traditional thinking goes, is the surest way to build wealth. Save up for a down payment, buy a starter home, and definitely don’t spend too long throwing money away on rent.

That dream has become more fantasy in the Covid-era economy.

Housing inventory was already low before the pandemic — a long-lingering effect of the bubble’s collapse in 2007, which created a glut of empty homes and prompted developers to drastically scale back production. The supply dwindled even further as newly remote workers retreated from cities, taking advantage of the record-low mortgage rates.

Between 2021 and 2022, home prices surged to record highs. Then, as inflation took root and interest rates rose, those too-good-to-miss 3% mortgages vanished.

For Garrett and Rachael, missing the low-rate window was a painful blow.

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This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 3:11 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108520 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Between 2021 and 2022, home prices surged to record highs. Then, as inflation took root and interest rates rose, those too-good-to-miss 3% mortgages vanished.
The majority of this boards pristine financial advice was “don’t buy, the bubble is bursting soon”

-since 2010
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:06 pm to
I'm a millennial, and it's a combination of government actively fighting it's citizens that aren't super rich or lower middle to destitute and corporations deciding short term profits are the best thing ever.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119970 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:07 pm to
This is what I’m telling my son. Do you want to go to college and learn from queer professors or do you want to be a real man and become a plumber? Doctors and lawyers will be saying “yes sir” to plumbers before long
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
1047 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:07 pm to
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don’t buy, the bubble is bursting soon


The retards on here convinced me of this for years and now I have a 7.25% rate on my first home.

Guess they know as much about real estate and finance as they do about football.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3764 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:09 pm to
The elites, our congress, and the Fed destroyed the American Dream through negligent/malevolent monetary policy, and the offshoring of manufacturing.

Damn them to hell.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:11 pm to
Investment banks
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
905 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:11 pm to
Anyone else sick of the term “gaslighting”? I hear 10 year olds using it all the time now.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22783 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:12 pm to
You have to remember what the end goal is - the ruling of the 95% by the richest 5%. The 5% want the 95% to be dependent upon them for everything, including housing. The rich 5% will own the housing, forcing the 95% to rent from them. Look at England - something like 65% of the population rents, and the rate is increasing. The powers that be would love to squeeze out home ownership - the best asset the middle class can have. No more passing on property and/or house to your children.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
Much better advice is to get a cheap-but-good entrepreneurial degree and own as much real property as possible. Businesses, rentals, etc.

Deficit spending isn’t stopping anytime soon, and every economist has known for 60+ years what that means for asset prices.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168839 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:14 pm to
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This is what I’m telling my son. Do you want to go to college and learn from queer professors or do you want to be a real man and become a plumber? Doctors and lawyers will be saying “yes sir” to plumbers before long


What a wonderful suggestion you had for me to have S Jr. shadow José and his HVAC crew during last week’s install. Oh, he’s learning so much!
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2779 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:18 pm to
I gave up on the "American Dream" years ago. This country has been on a downward spiral since Lyndon Johnson in the 60s. It's best to be rich or poor here. If you're in the middle, you're fricked.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59048 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:19 pm to
Middle class life is dead. Upper middle or bust
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19166 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:22 pm to








This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15423 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:25 pm to
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The culprits behind the bad vibes are obvious: persistent inequality.

What in the frick does this mean? Considering it's from CNN, I can probably assume what those shite birds mean.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15813 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:25 pm to
Didn’t read…but title reminds me of the soy boy the other day posting about having to work 50 hours a week….

Nut up, being successful and taking care of your family means working hard! That’s what being a man is about.
Posted by Shut Up Mulllet
Member since Apr 2021
973 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:25 pm to
I’m Generation X. On one hand I feel like the last few generations are a bunch of weak cry baby’s.
On the other hand I can’t help but see how much harder it is to make it these days.
Compare that to our parents . A man could live a good life with just his job working forty or so hours a week.
I really miss the time before….. it’s almost like an apocalypse movie. Just on a slow burn.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16699 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:26 pm to
Social media is the worst thing that happened to millennials (and everyone else).

Maybe an EMP attack wouldnt be so bad....
Posted by UK34
Member since May 2016
189 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:27 pm to
College costs are obviously out of control but it needs to be treated as an investment like everything else. Want to be a teacher? Great, you know the pay scale so don't complain if you can't live life after going to your "dream school" which cost 100K+.

So many people could arrive at the same educational destination by going to a community college for two years before heading to an in-state fiur year school. That path just doesn't get the social media clout and isn't looked upon as "success".
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19166 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Compare that to our parents . A man could live a good life with just his job working forty or so hours a week.


I think it all happened when the 401k was introduced and pensions went out the window. There's no benefit in staying with the same company for years.
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