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re: Baldwin charged again
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:39 pm to baldona
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:39 pm to baldona
What's not understood, is the gun being loaded is only one part of the issue here.
Yes, conceivably Baldwin is not guilty for that.
But the gun was NEVER supposed to be fired AT someone. Baldwin did that, and that's the issue.
Then to compound that, he hired a shite company to save money to be the armorer and allowed multiple other events to happen that led to the gun being left loaded with a live round.
Then he pulled the trigger and shot AT someone.
Yes, conceivably Baldwin is not guilty for that.
But the gun was NEVER supposed to be fired AT someone. Baldwin did that, and that's the issue.
Then to compound that, he hired a shite company to save money to be the armorer and allowed multiple other events to happen that led to the gun being left loaded with a live round.
Then he pulled the trigger and shot AT someone.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:41 pm to baldona
The gun being loaded is absolutely THE ISSUE
Actors have an absolute reasonable expectation that guns on set are not live ready to fire unless EXPLICITLY told so
Actors have an absolute reasonable expectation that guns on set are not live ready to fire unless EXPLICITLY told so
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:07 pm to baldona
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Then to compound that, he hired a shite company to save money to be the armorer and allowed multiple other events to happen that led to the gun being left loaded with a live round.
Didn’t his 2nd director supposedly check gun as well and told everyone it was “cold” or whatever term they use?
I have not paid attention to the more recent factual updates, but I thought I remember members of the cast & crew using the guns for target practices. I would like to find out what added procedures they were supposed to have in place for using real guns that are at times also being used to fire real ammo by actors & crew when gun not used in scenes.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:16 pm to baldona
quote:I agree with that... it's part of what we expect from Hollywood.
What's not understood, is the gun being loaded is only one part of the issue here.
Yes, conceivably Baldwin is not guilty for that.
I remember Dirty Harry, and learned that S&W gave Clint the Model 29 he used in that role. It wasn't a fake, it was a real revolver.
quote:Yeah... Baldwin the producer.
But the gun was NEVER supposed to be fired AT someone. Baldwin did that, and that's the issue.
You're not supposed to point directly at a person, or a cameraman either (it's supposed to be remote-operated).
I think she, as the cinematographer, was trying to frame up the best possible visual angle, and cut safety corners to do so. It was a low budget production, it would have cost money to stage that scene multiple times, to see precisely where you want the camera; or she could stand there, and move around (squat, rise up etc) to see exactly where you wanted it to be.
quote:Another huge sin, based on saving money. I think they were using the owner of the ranch where they filmed, his private collection of guns.
Then to compound that, he hired a shite company to save money to be the armorer and allowed multiple other events to happen that led to the gun being left loaded with a live round.
The "proper" way would be to contract out with a props company, but that would have involved paying them.
quote:He shot at his mark, there happened to be someone in the line of fire. And it turned out to be a loaded gun.
Then he pulled the trigger and shot AT someone.
But I will bet you anything, 99% of this goes on at almost every low budget action or western flick, in the name of saving money (more money you, including cast and crew, get to keep). People keep their mouths shut about violations, in order to make a dollar.
The one difference was the gun having live rounds this time. I'm still curious about that, wondering if someone was setting him up. Maybe the intent to expose what a shitty production he was running and get him fined, and it became worst-case scenario.
Has Jensen Ackles ever spoken up about this? He was in the cast.
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