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re: Is Mcmahon a good coach?

Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:16 am to
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14931 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:16 am to
The dude took a team with 0 scholarships and has made them competitive and relevant in year 2.

Yes, he’s a good coach and those not understanding the conditions in which he took over and don’t give him credit are nauseating.

It’s time for LSU fans to stfu and go to games and root for this team to succeed instead of waiting for them to fail
Posted by mikelsu15
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
1512 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:21 am to
If he won his last game, then yes. If not he sucks and Will Wade = John Wooden.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6621 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:22 am to
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The Wade nut huggers are panic mode right now.


Yeah they are… and will be here shortly to down vote this to prove the point.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4299 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:23 am to
X and o’s. Yes. They run some really good sets
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6195 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:28 am to
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I'm still unsure about whether his demeanor is a good match


This is the dumbest metric ever created by the rant.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4602 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:42 am to
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Moral victories aren’t a stat I would use but I have been impressed so far in SEC play
And you think it was quoted as a stat. Silly you.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20555 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:43 am to
He's clearly a good coach, and most people understood that before he came here. I'd say all things considered, he's probably an upgrade over Will Wade as a coach.

Jury's still out on how he is running a program, but at least we're seeing some progress.
It's gonna take a couple years to get things running smoothly.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18959 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:44 am to
Teams with good coaching get better as the season goes along.... we're getting better. We're not ready to win the SEC yet, but will prolly be in NIT. Win a couple you shouldn't, maybe on NCAA bubble. Tough games on the road coming up. Geaux !
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
10094 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:46 am to
The team is improving and we havebeen playing better in the 2H recently which means he is making good half time adjustments.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28719 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:46 am to
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The dude took a team with 0 scholarships and has made them competitive and relevant in year 2.


He didn't take a team with 0 scholarships and make them competitive in year two. Hell, there are only 5 players on this team that were on last year's tea. 3 players returned from the 2021-2022 team. That was more than the the amount that returned at Kansas St. and Missouri. Teams that where FAR more competitive last year. And this mantra in the age of the transfer era is completely overblown. The transfer portal was fully available to McMahon. Just like it was to all coaches. Which is how the aforementioned K-State and Missouri went from bad to good with overhauled rosters in one season. And Missouri's transfers were mostly mid-major and JUCO players.

The "he started with 0 players" would carry much more weight in the old era of college basketball when a coach only had HS signees and JUCO players available to him. It was nearly impossible to build a great roster in one offseason because the options to do so were very limited. That's what Brady, Jones and Wade faced when they stepped in. The didn't have 1,000+ DI players available to sign. That's why complete rebuilds can happen literally in the span of one offseason. It's ridiculous to judge McMahon by the old standard of roster building.

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t’s time for LSU fans to stfu and go to games and root for this team to succeed instead of waiting for them to fail


No LSU FAN wants the team/program to fail. But until literally 2 weeks ago McMahon had done nothing noteworthy in his time here and gave the fanbase no objective reason to believe he would. That has changed a bit now...so your going to see more and more people start to get on board. Which is why LSU is going to have their best home crowd of the season Saturday. LSU fans are no different than any other fans. Give them a product to believe in and they will show up. But you can't get angry at folks for deciding to not waste their time and money attending an unentertaining event...which is what LSU basketball was until two weeks ago.



Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28719 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:49 am to
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he's probably an upgrade over Will Wade as a coach.


Serious question. What makes him a better coach? As in what does he do specifically that Wade didn't as a coach?

Many here say he is a "better coach"...and they very well may be right...but no one can actually articulate their basis for that opinion
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20555 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

quote:

he's probably an upgrade over Will Wade as a coach.



Serious question. What makes him a better coach? As in what does he do specifically that Wade didn't as a coach?

Just my impression of in-game adjustments and tweaks.

Wade was quite good at getting the team ready for a game, but it seemed like if there was something early we had no answer for, that would remain the entire game.
Wade was more of a card player, would assemble a good hand and ride it.
Looks like McMahon might be a better chess player type guy, adjusting to things that do and don't work.

Both aspects are important, and you need both.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14636 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:08 pm to
I think the more pertinent question is - is he a good coach for this level.

IMHO, the jury is still out.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3264 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:29 pm to
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what does he do specifically that Wade didn't as a coach?


Won multiple conference championships.
Coached his team from the bench during NCAA tournament games.
Not get suspended.
Not be central to an FBI or NCAA investigation.
Not get fired.
Currently head coach at a P5 school.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
352 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Won multiple conference championships.
Coached his team from the bench during NCAA tournament games.
Not get suspended.
Not be central to an FBI or NCAA investigation.
Not get fired.
Currently head coach at a P5 school.


none of that shite was wade's fault. that federal case was a case of massive govt overreach. it was reasonable for wade to believe his phone calls and messages were private. he is an American citizen and deserves privacy.

I like McMahon and wade. I want success for both. but lets not pretend wade was treated fairly. the NCAA has never done anything right and should always be opposed. this year they tried to screw a local kid, they are always trying to screw up people's lives.
Posted by thatkid5
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2023
16 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:13 pm to
We have a JV roster last year plus KJ, this season is really year 1 for him.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3264 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:38 pm to
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none of that shite was wade's fault


You sure?

quote:

Won multiple conference championships
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
352 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:58 pm to
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You sure?


correct, its not wade's fault McMahon won at murray. I think you misunderstood who those things were referring to.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48391 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:21 pm to
I like how you used a non P5 job to discredit Wade and at the same time used a non P5 job to bolster McMahon’s accomplishments.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19318 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:04 pm to
I think he’s good, he just don’t have a lot of talent. Hopefully he has a good recruiting class coming. Making the NIT this year would be nice
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