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Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:24 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Why do you think he can be successful?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:30 am to Madking
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Why do you think he can be successful?
He has decent Xs and Os offensively speaking. Give him time to build a roster… NOT because that’s how the modern landscape is but that’s how he wants to do it.
We overperformed based on the talent of our roster. 9-9 was better than a lot of us expected, especially with our schedule. Especially since we didn’t get to play mizzou twice (all love madking, just a jab
) He’s a good (not great) recruiter. And we had success in the portal despite an abysmal record. I expect us to have just as much if not more success next year.
And most of all his players PLAY HARD. They don’t give up. And that’s something that they should be commended for.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:32 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
I’ve had conversations with him on multiple occasions. It’s clear he wants to do more on both sides of the ball but he’s aware he’s limited by his talent.
The crux of McMahons success will depend on the jimmies and joes we get to suit up. A lot of things he wants to execute aren’t possible with middling talent.
I spoke previously about this but someone mentioned how he did more at Murray St schematically speaking. That’s because their talent relative to OVC was the best. It wasn’t that way relative to SEC when they transferred here. When we get better players we will play to the fullest capacity that he wants.
The crux of McMahons success will depend on the jimmies and joes we get to suit up. A lot of things he wants to execute aren’t possible with middling talent.
I spoke previously about this but someone mentioned how he did more at Murray St schematically speaking. That’s because their talent relative to OVC was the best. It wasn’t that way relative to SEC when they transferred here. When we get better players we will play to the fullest capacity that he wants.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:34 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Our Xs and Os are shite on both ends which is why we’re so bad in crucial moments when the game slows down and why we’re so bad on D. Again that’s why I alerted you to those videos, so you can see how big the difference is.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:40 am
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:34 am to Madking
quote:because he has a track record of being a winner and not some loser message board poster like you and me. Get fricking real dude. McMahon knows ball, he can coach and is going to win.
Why do you think he can be successful?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:35 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
There is a way for him to be successful. If he can recruit at a blue blood level we’ll be a fairly competitive team but that’s the only way.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:36 am to TigerFan91
Save yourself the time and stop posting to me. You’re a nut and you’re totally ignorant when it comes to this sport. You’re wasting my time.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:39 am to Madking
Dawg. You think you know more basketball than someone that won 70% of the games they coached and made multiple tournaments.
He’s already clowned on you this year with this turn around. He’s only going to continue to get better players and win more. It’s going to be so hilarious watching you wiggle out of your stance going forward.
He’s already clowned on you this year with this turn around. He’s only going to continue to get better players and win more. It’s going to be so hilarious watching you wiggle out of your stance going forward.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:40 am to Madking
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Our Xs and Os are shite on both ends which is why we’re so bad in crucial moments when the game slows down and why we’re so bad on D
Our switch everything man to man on defense can work. I think we simply lack the personnel to do so.
And that’s a huge area I’ve been critical of McMahon. He lacks adaptability with his personnel. He’d rather force middling talent to do what he wants them to do instead of adjusting his scheme to make up for the talent.
That’s always been my problem. Scheme and rotations. I will reiterate that our success will depend on talent. We don’t need blue blood level talent. But we need good sec players. And I think that Robert miller and Curtis givens will be an immediate improvement over baker and Stewart.
I also think our portal will be better than last year. at worst just as good
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:44 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
You’re not wrong about the rotations but we’re not switching every pick. We’re hedging incorrectly so a lot of times we have 2 guys chasing the ball. Watch Jordan Wright, who I like, he’s seldom in a proper defensive stance. Watch Baker or the other bigs hedge, they’re facing the complete opposite of where they’re supposed to. These are not talent issues at all.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:47 am to Madking
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You’re not wrong about the rotations but we’re not switching every pick. We’re hedging incorrectly so a lot of times we have 2 guys chasing the ball.
You’re correct, we’ve gone away from the switch everything MTM defense recently. I think our defense has gotten slightly better. I agree we over hedge, which is why I’d prefer Dean over baker (or fountain 4 Reed 5) because they’re just more mobile.
I think McMahon is an offensive coach and he needs a good defensive coach as his assistant.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:50 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
I kind of sped through your rotations point but it’s a good one and I agree. A big part of his problem is he doesn’t seem to know what his team is. Look at Hannibal, a guy he’s had for 3 years, he never thought to play him at point when it’s obvious that’s his position. Tyrell Ward, a 5* kid and your most talented player, never played as a freshman, has been excellent all season but he only got into the lineup a week or two ago. The fact that we’re a top 3-4 three point shooting team with bigs who can shoot yet were 11th or 12th in attempts. There is more but these are all clear examples of mismanaging personnel and not identifying what your own players are.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:54 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
You’re right, he wants to be a high efficiency half court offensive team and that’s fine. On the slow bigs point though, the trend in CBB right now is drop coverage, of all pick and roll plays the lowest % and lowest points per shot are coming when the ball handier takes the shot so Bakers mobility shouldn’t be an issue but we’re not playing defense correctly.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:55 am
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:58 am to Madking
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Look at Hannibal, a guy he’s had for 3 years, he never thought to play him at point when it’s obvious that’s his position
Yes. I said this during the early part of the season and EVERYONE disagreed with me. Him getting subbed out what the MAIN reason we lost to Dayton. It’s ridiculous to disagree.
I was saying for so long to play Mike at the 2 and Hannibal at the 1, because Mike was a 2 in high school. It’s like I’m the only MBB fan that watches tape on our players.
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Tyrell Ward, a 5* kid and your most talented player, never played as a freshman, has been excellent all season but he only got into the lineup a week or two ago. The fact that we’re a top 3-4 three point shooting team with bigs who can shoot yet were 11th or 12th in attempts.
Again, I’ve watched a lot of tape on all our players. Dean hit a three and looked good with the ball in his hands, like I said he would. It’s ridiculous to me how people who don’t watch tape on our players want to disagree with me like they know what they’re talking about.
And yes, we all want Tyrell to play more and be a bigger focal point on our offense. I sat behind our bench last season screaming to put Tyrell in. He needs to play if we want to take a jump to the next level.
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There is more but these are all clear examples of mismanaging personnel and not identifying what your own players are.
YES!! And I’ve been so critical about this umpteen times. Which is why I don’t know why people think I’m a McMan.
Except I do, it’s because no one reads MBB threads.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:11 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
And that’s what I mean by threading the needle. Coach seems to have a very limited bag of tools he’s working with. He doesn’t seem to identify the pulse of his teams until very late in the season. Maybe he starts getting guys who fit exactly how he wants them to but in my experience the only coach I’ve seen come close to consistently achieving that is Bobby Knight.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:41 am to Madking
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And that’s what I mean by threading the needle. Coach seems to have a very limited bag of tools he’s working with. He doesn’t seem to identify the pulse of his teams until very late in the season.
And I agree. I think his base scheme and ideas are good. He just lacks adaptability.
As Alt26 would call it "game feel"
I think McMahon is a good coach. Being a head coach in CBB is difficult. You're in charge of a LOT including recruiting, tPortal, roster construction, etc. It's not like McMahon has a GM constructing his roster for him.
I really think things will improve WHEN and IF we get the proper jimmies and joes to run what McMahon wants. Like I said I've spoken to him on numerous occasions. Recently I had a 10 minute or so conversation with him and he made it quite clear once we get the players he wants we will play much better. From a schematic point I can understand what McMahon is TRYING to do. I think what he wants to do will work with the correct personnel.
I think he lacks the ability to adjust and change his scheme/rotations to match his personnel (and I've beaten the horse beyond dead on this point by now). I think a harsh reality of basketball is that a good scheme and good fit can out perform talent. I think MSU this year is a perfect example of that.. give McMahon the benefit of the doubt and let him construct his roster the way he wants. I'm optimistic and I think we will be pleased with the results.
If not, I'd be disappointed. But that's the life of an LSU basketball fan. I've already lived through TJ and JJ. It's bound to happen again.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 4:33 am
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:55 am to Walt OReilly
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You dumb fricking idiot
Beat a winless sec team By 4 pts at home and you say start a dumb thread
You dumb fricking idiot
Shut the frick up, Walt. Shouldn't you be out drinking and driving anyway? Or not. Always funny when you get shite-housed and go off schtick.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:03 am to Madking
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It’s because they’re not LSU basketball fans.
That's rich.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:17 am to Madking
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Again that’s why I alerted you to those videos, so you can see how big the difference is.
You mean the videos of teams who've won twice as many NCs in the past 10 years than we've made Final Fours in our entire program history? And another in a talent rich state that recently played in the Finals? You think maybe it's a little easier for them to attract more talented players and coaches than us the past 2 years after what Wade left us with? (whether you think he shouldn't have been fired or not is 100% irrelevant--he was). Again, whether you think it was Wade's fault or not, the program was where it was after the left, and who the frick with options would have wanted to be a part of it? I was shocked we pulled someone with McMahon's resume. And what players--again, with options--would have wanted to be part of it?
I can't believe I'm even engaging with you. You care more about being right than the success of LSU basketball. Rooting against 18, 19, 20-year-old kids to "prove" you were "right" about the coach makes you a shitty LSU fan. Creating a false dichotomy between Wade and McMahon makes you a shitty LSU fan. Again, for the 3rd time, whether you think he should have been fired or not is completely irrelevant--he was. "Choosing" Wade over McMahon is intellectually dishonest, because it was no choice at all. At least not by us. And probably not even by Woodward. He didn't choose McMahon over Wade. His choice was to fire Wade. Then, AFTER that was done, was to choose who he thought was the best option to lead the program moving forward. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But I can almost guarantee that there wasn't a fricking line down Nicholson of great coaches--with options--wanting to take that job at the time.
I don't know. I'm a grown man with at least a little objective awareness and perspective. It was a shite gig at the time. And it's never been a great gig to begin with. Despite us having probably a top 5ish program with all-time greats, we've only made 3 Final Fours and never won a game. And kids we're recruiting right now probably only associate us with 2 players: Ben Simmons--and I'm not sure that's such a great thing--and Shaq, who left 32 years ago. And I'm not completely sure they even know Shaq went to LSU at this point unless they get to campus and see his statue. Nobody remembers that '06 team.
For the 4th time, whether you think Wade was fairly fired is irrelevant. He was. And rooting against the guy who uprooted his family to move to the shite-hole that is Baton Rouge, Louisiana because you can't take Wade's cock out of your mouth not only makes you a bad LSU fan, but likely a bad person. Like I said, I'm a grown man with perspective. But what's sad is that I guarantee you're older than me and still haven't grasped the fact that we have a finite number of revolutions around the sun and wasting any of them being a whiny count is just a fricking waste. Sometimes you have to take a step or 2 back to take steps forward. It sucks, but it is what it is. And since we have no control, what's the alternative. Let's use football as an example. My vivid memories started with Archer. I pulled for him until he got fired. Then I pulled for Curley until he did. Same with Dinardo. Then Saban until he left. And Miles and Oregon after that. And now Kelly. Is McMahon the basketball program's Saban? Doubtful. Was Wade. Also doubtful. But I think it's reasonable to think McMahon could turn out to be its Dinardo. Bring it out of the darkness and make it more attractive for the next guy. And I just can't fathom why anybody would not just not pull for him to be, but actively root against it. To what end? Internet points? How fricking goddamn sad. And such a waste of energy. Which is, admittedly, likely what this long-arse post will likely turn out to be, because you assholes have already made up your minds and have your fingers stuck in your ears. But that's on you. I'll continue to pull for every LSU coach of every sport until they are no longer here. But you and your ilk do y'all, I guess.
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