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re: Pete Carmichael OUT as OC, WR coach Burns out as well

Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
DVOA had defense slightly better...
Offense #17
Defense #15
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
They will if you pay them. Only 32 spots for the position of OC in the nfl.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Gruden as Assoc HC


Does this ever happen in the NFL or are y’all just making shite up??
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
Saints Off 10th pspg
Saints Def 6th pgpg
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
well it may not be what we all wanted, but it is a start I guess.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:39 pm to
Eric Bienemy

Come on down
Posted by Marfa
Esplanade
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:39 pm to
Should have been done midway through the season. But of course DA needed his fall guy for the end of the season.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

The Def was 6th in the NFL in points given up per game. That is the most important stat of all for a D

Now rank the offenses they played against vs the defenses our offense went against.

Hint, we had to have played the worst set or 2nd worst set of offenses in the nfl. Its a sham that we werent a top 5 defense in yards per play against that schedule. Itll show more next year when our competition level goes up
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

DVOA had defense slightly better...
Offense #17
Defense #15


The offense trended way better down the stretch. Which isnt crazy once you consider carr finally got comfortable with the offense, and i dont even like carr.

We had the 15th ranked dvoa defense against the best possible schedule of offenses? Think about that
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:44 pm to
I can throw any stats out the window after watching this year.
To my old eyes the offense under performed the defense.
Both under performed the ST unit.

Excuses are everywhere this year. Look what Cam did for the D this year etc.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:45 pm to
Dennis hung on to Pete the whole season do that he could make him the fall guy at years end.
Posted by SJHTIGER
down south
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Itll show more next year when our competition level goes up


You DO realize they said the Saints schedule for next year is tied for easiest in the NFL right????
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:46 pm to
Yup. It was said very early in the season.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:47 pm to
It’s not a start to anything. DA is still head coach and Carr is still QB.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Dennis hung on to Pete the whole season do that he could make him the fall guy at years end.



This seems painfully obvious.

And the FO hangs on to Dennis to make him the scapegoat next year
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:48 pm to
The big difference in turnover differential was also skewed I think.

Like for example we got five against the bears.

So while we were +11, they kind of came in flurries in some games

One thing that I was satisfied with is that we took better care of the ball by not turning it over on offense as much.

Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10788 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:50 pm to
It's a strength of opponent adjusted stat.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Does this ever happen in the NFL or are y’all just making shite up??

Look at the guy that clearly doesn’t follow this team
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3402 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:51 pm to
This move should have been made 4 weeks into the season. It was obvious that PC was not up for this job without SP backing him. Loomis and Allen completely screwed this season hoping things would get better. All this indecision did was Fk the Saints from a top 10 pick and a chance for a quality QB. This organization is screwed.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64556 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:52 pm to
I still find it amazing that all of the top 12 teams in lowest points given up per game went to the playoffs except the Raiders and the Saints. DA's former and current team
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