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Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:50 pm
Is This A Clot Shot Death?



Army grieves loss of wrestling star who died from surgery complications….

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Estrella Dorado Marin, 21, passed Jan. 3 at North Suburban Medical Center in Thornton, Colorado, following complications related to emergency surgery. She had been battling numbness in her upper extremities due to blood clots, her family said.

Estrella” means star in Spanish, and Spc. Estrella Dorado Marin, a freestyle wrestler with the U.S. Army World Class Athlete Program, was that bright light.

“She was just the sweetest person,” said her sister, Spc. Adriana Dorado Marin, a former WCAP wrestler. “I would always describe her as a saint. She never got into trouble, and the dedication with everything she did, that drove me to be like her.”

The passing of Estrella Dorado Marin, who enlisted in the U.S. Army in 2020 and joined WCAP in 2021, is especially devastating because this is an Olympic year. Her goal was to qualify for the U.S. Olympic Women’s Freestyle Wrestling Team at 53 kilograms and win Olympic gold in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, said Sgt. 1st Class Jermaine Hodge, WCAP women’s freestyle assistant coach.

“If I worked half as hard as she did, I probably would be an Olympic champion by now,” Hodge said. “I would say, hands down, she was probably the hardest worker that I’ve ever seen. Her work ethic was contagious, and when you see her working hard like that, you wanted to work just as hard as her, and no one was going to outwork her by any means. But they tried to emulate that.

“We have a saying in the wrestling room, and it says. ‘Rock is hard, water is wet, and wrestling is tough.’ And she was the epitome of that quote. When you talk about tough, she was tough,” Hodge said.

Her competitive ferocity on the mat resulted in silver medals at the 2022 Under-20 Pan American Games and 2023 Armed Forces Wrestling Championships, and a fifth-place showing at the 2023 U.S. Open in Las Vegas.

Just as her work ethic and competitive drive were contagious, so were her shy, artistic nature, devotion to her family and giggle, said Patricia Lopez, her aunt.

“Estrella was truly an innocent, beautiful soul,” Lopez said. “There was just nothing negative about her, and her passing leaves a hole in our hearts that will never be completely filled. There was so much she had to offer and wanted to do. She wanted to take family trips around the world, and she wanted to do translations for people. We lost someone so amazing.”

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Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:54 pm to
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Is This A Clot Shot Death?

Who knows but let's just assume it is anyway right?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:59 pm to
Caveat emptor
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Who knows but let's just assume it is anyway right?




Don't do that.

But I urge you to go get boosted tomorrow. Only you though
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:13 pm to
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Who knows



Who indeed?

Yet it seems a pretty fair assumption since we do know that blood clots are a known side affect of these junk vaccines. We likewise can assume that there is a very high probability that she was vaccinated and boosted since she was active duty Army.

All in all, it seems a reasonable question to wonder if the COVID-1984 vaccine may have contributed to her demise.

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Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Yet it seems a pretty fair assumption since we do know that blood clots are a known side affect of these junk vaccines.

It would be a reasonable assumption if that was the only way to get blood clots. Otherwise it's just a random guess.
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We likewise can assume that there is a very high probability that she was vaccinated and boosted since she was active duty Army.


Yes. That is an actual reasonable assumption.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:15 pm to
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quote: Is This A Clot Shot Death? Who knows but let's just assume it is anyway right?


Its a fair hypothesis at this point
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:24 pm to
Fully vaxed no doubt.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:37 pm to
Haven't had one of these in a while.

It's been a dry spell for the clot shot gang. People were supposed to be falling dead in droves by now.
Posted by LakeCharles
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Who knows but let's just assume it is anyway right?

You're right. There is less than a 30% chance that it was a clot caused by the covid vax that killed her. I guess we should not care that 30% or 40% more people in her age group are dying now compared to 3 or 4 years ago. You would think that some governmental organization that we pay to look for things like increased death rates and infectious diseases would be raising flags, but crickets. Maybe crickets because they are responsible in some way? No one would want to be pointing fingers because we all know everything they do is safe and effective.


Posted by tigerfan 64
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:58 am to
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Who knows but let's just assume it is anyway right?

If it wasn't caused by the shot, we will certainly be told.
If it was caused by the shot, we certainly won't be told, right????
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Posted by Flats
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:20 am to
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I guess we should not care that 30% or 40% more people in her age group are dying now compared to 3 or 4 years ago.


I get the hostility towards the vax industrial complex, but this number seems......exaggerated.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:56 am to
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Otherwise it's just a random guess.


Yes.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:10 am to
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Elite Army Athlete


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Estrella


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She


DOES NOT COMPUTE
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:15 am to
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Yet it seems a pretty fair assumption since we do know that blood clots are a known side affect of these junk vaccines.


It isn’t a fair assumption. It is literally the opposite. There are several risk factors for clots that would be far more likely than a blood clot due to a vaccine.
Posted by LakeCharles
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:20 am to
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I get the hostility towards the vax industrial complex, but this number seems......exaggerated.

Check out @ethicalskeptic on X. He does some good analysis of CDC numbers and ICD codes.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:36 am to
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There are several risk factors for clots that would be far more likely than a blood clot due to a vaccine.


Fair enough. Yet you yourself are making an assumption here with that assertion.

The simple fact remains that myocarditis is a risk associated with these MRNA vaccines and blood clots are a risk associated with heart inflammation. No amount of gaslighting by the usual suspects on this forum changes that reality.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:53 am to
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Fair enough. Yet you yourself are making an assumption here with that assertion.



The risk factors for are evidence-based and are based on mainly three factors. Those factors are collectively referred to as Virchow's triad, and they are vascular endothelial damage, venous stasis, and hypercoagulability. Those risk factors can be related to several distinct etiologies.

There are also transient risk factors and chronic risk factors. There are several estrogen-related risk factors, which include pregnancy and/or the use of OCPs. Obesity is also a risk factor. The chronic risk factors include hereditary thrombophilias, which have a rather high prevalence in the general population.

Medicine is a process by which we ascertain causes for pathologies. We tend to start from common etiologies first rather than rare causes. There are several things I'd put in my differential before a vaccine-related cause.

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The simple fact remains that myocarditis is a risk associated with these MRNA vaccines and blood clots are a risk associated with heart inflammation. No amount of gaslighting by the usual suspects on this forum changes that reality.



The simple fact remains that myocarditis is most often the sequalae of viral infection. No amount of screeching about potential vaccine side effects, which are far rarer than the sequalae of the actual pathogen in question, will change that.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26892 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:56 am to
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The simple fact remains that myocarditis is most often the sequalae of viral infection. No amount of screeching about potential vaccine side effects, which are far rarer than the sequalae of the actual pathogen in question, will change that.


Is that what the numbers show? Pre and post-vax myocarditis frequency is pretty much the same?
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