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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:25 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31788 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:25 am to
i have been on for years, 8 to be exact

my advice, 2x week shots, subq if it doesnt cause bruising or rash like bumps

start at about 150mg total per week split into 2 shots

get on boron to increase free test levels, 9-12mg daily

dont worry about increase in estrogen in blood work, worry about how you feel

give it 16 weeks to allow full build up and leveling off before taking new bloods.

try and keep your levels at the high end of normal for your age and keep your free test levels as high as possible

other advice would be to start prioritizing protein in your diet and getting around .8-1g per lbs of bodyweight and start lifting weights.
Posted by PCHSDawg
Pine Belt
Member since Oct 2014
299 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:27 am to
Shouldn't the diet and lifestyle changes come first, then see where your test is?
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
824 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:34 am to
I need to go get some bloodwork done since I am about to turn 30. What should I ask for from my doctor as far as bloodwork? I have heard from some that sometime, depending on age; doctors aren't inclined to request test levels...?

Also, on the Boron should this be taken morning or night?
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 10:36 am
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9839 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:58 am to
quote:

dont worry about increase in estrogen in blood work, worry about how you feel


This x 100. And it goes for testosterone. People get fixated on treating a number instead of how you feel.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1707 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:59 am to
quote:

dont worry about increase in estrogen in blood work, worry about how you feel


I have a question on this. Totally understand the "how you feel" approach. However, I wasn't feeling much of a change even though my test levels (total and free) had increased sufficiently. My estrogen levels were more than double what the clinic said should be the high end of average. I wasn't necessarily having negative side affects, but wasn't seeing anything majorly positive after going from below normal range to the highest levels of normal. Taking a blocker and now feel more energy in the gym and at jiu jitsu. But that's also because I really started working out more since starting TRT and maybe my fitness is just catching up. Hard to say if the estrogen blocker is helping that.

I will say that the possible physical side affects of high estrogen scared me. I know they may not happen for a majority of people, but I don't want to deal with gynecomastia and not know until it already starts.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
407 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:55 pm to
777, do you ever get small lumps that you can feel but not see at your injection sites using SubQ? I get them that last 2 days at most and then go away.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15026 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:04 am to
quote:

start prioritizing protein in your diet and getting around .8-1g per lbs of bodyweight and start lifting weights.


This alone will increase your level of testosterone. No need for anything else.
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