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Zion as a roll man decoy

Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:43 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:43 am
It seemed like all night last night the Zion P&Rs were working pretty well. CJ got quite a few layups out of it because Zion's man had to stick with Zion. At the end of the game they went to the BI/Zion P&R and those worked out as well.

So is this something we should be seeing more often, or was it just taking advantage of Utah's scheme?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25970 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:46 am to
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is this something we should be seeing more often


It worked and worked really well, so no
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:48 am to
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It worked and worked really well, so no



Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:52 am to
AD has been calling for the BI/Zion PnR for 4 years now, and we've seen it a handful of games.


I want to see more BI/Zion PnR with CJ/Trey in the game to kick out to with JV at the top of the key, and if you kcik it back out to JV, then Zion should be wide open posting his man up under the basket.

I want to see Zion/JV PnR from the FT line. Plenty of teams use the big to big screen, but i don't think we've ever done that.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25970 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:56 am to
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AD has been calling for the BI/Zion PnR for 4 years now, and we've seen it a handful of games.


We got a massive cocktease video of it during practice and then they ran it at the end of games, we won a bunch, then the fricking Grizzlies games and rocket games happened where we went completely back to our old ways.

Ingram can 1000% be the end game pg with him and Zion trading off the pnr/give and goes. They just never stay fricking consistent.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12940 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:57 am to
We finally use Zion the way GSW use Draymond. It accomplish two very important things. BI is still involved and is the ball handler to initiate the offense. Zion gets to be the creator/facilitator and use his gravity to create shot opportunities for his teammates.

Pretty sad it took this long to do it. Let's see if this is something they continue to do.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:59 am to
It shouldn't even be an end of game thing only.

If BI and Zion are in the game, that should be the beginning of almost every play.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2298 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:22 am to
Its the Murray-Jokic action and should have always been Pels primary set ….. Maybe even get away from this BI v Zion elementary school debate.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43021 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:48 am to
Its only the thing the ball boy could see all year.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33080 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:50 am to
quote:

If BI and Zion are in the game, that should be the beginning of almost every play.

I agree, it should be our go to secondary transition option less than 10 seconds into the shot clock then play off of that
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:52 am to
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So is this something we should be seeing more often, or was it just taking advantage of Utah's scheme?

It should be the most repeatable action we use against any team.


My confidence level that it will be the most repeatable action we use going forward? Close to 0.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31954 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:20 pm to
Stockton and Malone got to the finals because they could do that well.

We on the other hand will not do that anymore.
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