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re: Elon Musk / X could allow us to shatter the American two-party system

Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263426 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:22 pm to
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The future must remove power from the old systems and decentralize it where Governments and Organizations can't make them go away with lawfare.


Indeed.

Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10408 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:32 pm to
Interesting when the people criticizing “X” are the same people that swore by “Twitter” when it was owned and run by others to the benefit of a single political party and the government that they supported and voted for.
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
916 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:34 pm to
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I signed up for X a month or two ago. I did it to follow the news out of Israel. I've never seen more propaganda than on that site. It's 7 to 1 against Israel.


That’s so weird. It’s almost like there are 100+ Muslims for every Jew in the world.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99695 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Nope. ALA BAMA!


I guess the rumors of inbreeding are sometimes true.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:40 pm to
I lived in Acadiana for a long time... Lousiana can't say anything about inbreeding.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 4:41 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21404 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:42 pm to
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X is the biggest joke of insane, tin foil hat wearng nonsense and anit American hate I have ever seen on the internet. I think Elon has an agenda and it's not freedom of speech.


Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25360 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:49 pm to
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we could have a free and transparent X party where candidates like Vivek, RFK2, and Tulsi Gabbard could compete for consensus and build a powerful alternative party 

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Vivek

Says all the right things for the most part, but is completely unproven.
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RFK2

An avowed leftist nutjob that still wants to abolish the Second Amendment. His anti-MIC stances are not nearly enough for me to consider him as a serious option when nearly all of his other stances are farther Left than his father or uncle.
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Tulsi Gabbard

Anti-MIC and wasn't afraid to call out Hillary on the big stage during a nationally televised debate. Bonus points for impeccable rack and being easy on the eyes. Still an avowed socialist who was plenty liberal enough to satisfy the deep blue Hawaiians she represented.

So in summary, Vivek is completely unproven and Gabbard/RFKJr. are somewhere between Socialist and Liberal and both want the involuntary disarmament of the US population...

Two of them fit well in the DNC and one is currently nothing but a loudmouth with balls who paints a pretty picture but has no skins on the wall. I believe your choice of examples was poor in presenting them as viable "3rd party" candidates, mate. True, third-party candidates would be trying to carve out a niche apart from the Establishment Uniparty as opposed to embracing either the Action Wing (DNC) or Controlled Opposition Wing (GOPe) because they think it's their only shot at recognition.

Rule breakers are needed, who refuse to be crammed into the same confines as the swampers. Ross Perot was onto something.

Vivek wants the GOPe to love him. Tulsi left the DNC when she had already decided not to continue her career in politics. RFKJr. only dissented from the DNC because they snubbed him in favor of Mashed-Potato-Brain who currently and fraudulently resides in the White House.

I'm fine with the complete dissolution of party labels. No (R), (D) or (I) next to their name. Abolish lobbying and PACs. No more "straight ticket" voting options for anyone, anywhere. Make anyone who wishes to vote, actually research each name to see what they like and dislike about each candidate without the clouding of the skies that party labels brings with it.

But this fantasy scenario is only possible with a free and fair press that doesn't try to gaslight sheep through State propaganda and the disingenuous, if not outright deception and subterfuge. A free and fair press that accurately reports the facts without bias so that people can make their own educated decisions. And a free and fair press does not/will not exist any time soon, so it's a pipe dream inside a snowball in hell.

This scenario also needs the aforementioned people being able to educate themselves on the issues to make their own, informed decisions - and these people don't exist either, as 70% of Americans just believe what the talking box tells them and rush out to vote according to what Morning Joe or Anderson Cooper told them they should do.

We're in a bad way here in the USA. A viable third party would be great, but if we got one at all it would be the Green Party and they're just another extension of the DNC.

/Rant.
Posted by Simpkjo
West Monroe
Member since Jun 2007
2914 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:50 pm to
Pot meet kettle
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
947 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Weird because I'm a Rep.


Insert Will ferrel “we are laughing” gif.
One, most republicans are now moderate dems
And two, nothing about your posts are republican and definitely not conservative.

You’ve actually changed your tone and views slightly recently. And no o didn’t search your posts I just see them all the time because you’re always posting leftist opinions and nonsensical garbage
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27425 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Jack Dorsey's weird arse is working on a blockchain version which is obviously where it needs to go, but I don't trust that little bastard either. We've seen what he's willing to cave to.


I'm not a fan of Dorsey either, but I think he wanted to do the right thing, but just didn't have the power, money or energy to fight to establishment like Musk does, so he caved.

Also, how would a decentralized version of Twitter work? You still have to rely on ISPs, hosting companies, App providers like Apple/Google.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16928 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:05 pm to
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Still X is about 75% pro Hamas.


I haven't noticed that at all.

Are you following a bunch of hyper progressive bone heads?
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21954 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:09 pm to
If we don't have runoff elections in Presidential elections, 3 or more parties don't work. The Ross Perot/Daddy Bush split put horny Bill in the White House .
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10230 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:46 pm to
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People like Ray Ray are the biggest joke. He watches state sanctioned propaganda media



quote:

I don't even watch TV other than news


Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79678 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:58 pm to
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Well I know that. Still X is about 75% pro Hamas.


You literally said X put it out Don’t backtrack now
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4274 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:39 pm to
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Also, how would a decentralized version of Twitter work? You still have to rely on ISPs, hosting companies, App providers like Apple/Google.


There's already some out there. Mastadon is a decentralized social media network. Works like other things on blockchain. And because the servers are private and distributed and growing in number constantly, the government can't do squat about it.

Think about what that means. Oiligarchs won't be able to influence it. No more douchbag Zuckerbergs or Google or anything else. No more control points the intel agencies can inject themselves into to throttle speech or commerce or anything else. Run it all on bitcoin and governments are going to be much different entities than they are now. Will be really hard to fund wars when they have to buy bitcoin to pay for things after they destroy the dollar.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13448 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:01 pm to
Oh Ray Ray

When truth bombs start flying exposing corruption, etc and people ask questions… people (whack jobs) start calling them a racist, white supremacist, homophonic, un American, conspiracy theorists, etc and you fall right into the mutha fricking trap.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68964 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:07 pm to
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I think


Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15876 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Elon Musk / X could allow us to shatter the American two-party system


Lol. Oh child.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54754 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:23 pm to
No, he/it won’t.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:16 pm to
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I haven't noticed that at all. Are you following a bunch of hyper progressive bone heads?


I haven’t either. Not even close. X will feed you who you follow and who you engage with. If you follow and look at science related posts, you’ll get more of those.
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