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Hypothetical OT Lawyer question
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:19 pm
I am sure I am missing something here as I am a low IQ man. A hypothetical lawyer representing a man being tried for murder. The man confesses to the lawyer. I realize the lawyer gets disbarred if he reveals this but is it an option for the lawyer to say fine disbar me but I am going tell how I know he is guilty? The man gets put in jail for murder and the lawyer gets disbarred. What if anything keeps this from happening in our justice system?
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:20 pm to secfballfan
Snitches get stitches, brah.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:23 pm to secfballfan
If a priest who is also a lawyer hears his own confession to murder, can he be dispewted?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:24 pm to secfballfan
State still has to prove it. Kooks admit to crimes all the time.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:25 pm to secfballfan
Privileged communication, inadmissible.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:26 pm to secfballfan
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What if anything keeps this from happening in our justice system?
Not a very good business model for a criminal defense attorney, imo
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:26 pm to secfballfan
Even if the lawyer is able to do that and get a guilty verdict, the verdict is likely to be reversed on appeal.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:55 pm to secfballfan
The attorney-client privilege belongs to the client. The attorney cannot waive it. If the attorney did talk, his testimony is inadmissible.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:01 pm to Epaminondas
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Privileged communication, inadmissible.
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The attorney-client privilege belongs to the client. The attorney cannot waive it. If the attorney did talk, his testimony is inadmissible.
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:08 pm to secfballfan
^^^ That, and Lawyers are greedy, but not dumb. You rat your client out and he goes to jail, you lose a customer. Word gets out, you lose all your customers.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:12 pm to Planetarium
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That, and Lawyers are greedy, but not dumb.
There are some pretty dumb ones out there, TBH.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:53 pm to secfballfan
Wouldn’t be admissible, but a smart lawyer knows what to do
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:00 pm to secfballfan
If the lawyer wants to throw away his or her career their is nothing to stop them from doing it. If they have insurance the murderer could probably sue them for malpractice.
If a person consults a lawyer and says I'm goimg to kill my ex-wife's boyfriend or I'm going to commit fraud against so and so then the attorney client privilege does not apply (crime/fraud exception). Sometimes reporting is mandatory.
If a person consults a lawyer and says I'm goimg to kill my ex-wife's boyfriend or I'm going to commit fraud against so and so then the attorney client privilege does not apply (crime/fraud exception). Sometimes reporting is mandatory.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:08 pm to secfballfan
quote:No, it's not an option. The murderer-client can prohibit the lawyer from testifying to that, and the court would rule in the client's favor. With the lawyer's testimony excluded, the lawyer would not have gotten the murderer convicted.
is it an option for the lawyer to say fine disbar me but I am going tell how I know he is guilty? The man gets put in jail for murder ....
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:12 pm to secfballfan
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is it an option for the lawyer to say fine disbar me but I am going tell how I know he is guilty?
No. It wouldn’t be admissible.
Perhaps if it was a credible threat or statement of intent to commit murder/fraud/other serious felony. But that’s just about the only exception to attorney/client privilege. And as others have said, the attorney can’t waive it.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:59 pm to secfballfan
The hypothetical lawyer should just find the one hooker who can identify the guilty man and have her set him up with a drug deal. Then tip the cops off and convince them that the hooker’s life is at risk so they can save her when the deal goes bad. Don’t forget to have the hypothetical lawyer’s friend watch the whole thing from across the street as a backup.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:25 am to Kafka
quote:If a psychiatrist, who is also a priest, who is also a lawyer hears his own confession to murder, can he be decouched?
If a priest who is also a lawyer hears his own confession to murder, can he be dispewted?
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