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I know this is a rhetorical question

Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:55 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:55 am
But why are so many millennials and younger generations broke? I am 38, so right on the edge of being a millennial, went to college, got a degree in a STEM field, and make a pretty darn good living. I know a lot of people will say they are lazy, which a lot of them are, but what are the underlying reasons on why some of them are so terrible off financially? I'm sure spending $50k to get a degree and end up working retail or starbucks doesn't help.

It seems like the "everyone needs to go to college" mantra is doing nothing but increasing the number of socialists and marxist out there. They go to college and get indoctrinated and then get to the real world and have no actual use for the "skills" they learned. This just leads them wanting big daddy government to step in even more.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:58 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40211 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:59 am to
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But why are so many millennials and younger generations broke? I am 38, so right on the edge of being a millennial, went to college, got a degree in a STEM field, and make a pretty darn good living. I know a lot of people will say they are lazy, which a lot of them are, but what are the underlying reasons on why some of them are so terrible off financially? I'm sure spending $50k to get a degree and end up working retail or starbucks doesn't help.


1. Spending
2. Maybe the majority don’t earn like you do.
3. Maybe they complain about being broke because they only have $5000 in the bank when you may have $25000 discretionary income.
4. Maybe inflation has EVERYONE thinking they cannot go to five guys.


Glad you’re earning like you do. I did not, early on. Everyone needs to stick with it and wait for a good President again.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:01 am to
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Maybe the majority don’t earn like you do


You just repeated my question....
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95488 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:01 am to
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I am 38, so right on the edge of being a millennial


You are not, either. You are a full-fledged millennial. Folks born in 1980 to 1982 can try to claim Gen X status, but not you.

I get it - not everyone can be part of the most awesome generation of Americans (Gen X) and your millennial brethren, collectively, are *ahem* "not optimal".

ETA: And the answer is almost always spending. If you make little, but spend less you will be wealthy over time. If you make a lot, but spend more, you will be broke forever.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 7:04 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82156 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:03 am to
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Gen X


The only reason America hasn't collapsed.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10640 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:07 am to

“Everybody wins a trophy”
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:20 am to
Legit question.

As the father of two young men, one in college, I am blown away by what life costs right now. As a young man in the 90s, I struggled for a couple of years with multiple simultaneous jobs, but when I got my first good job at Delta, I was able to get married, buy our first home and have a decent car to drive. But go price out apartments, utilities, food and even basic used transportation these days. I’ll admit, I have been earning comfortably for a couple of decades now so I had no idea how it was ratcheting up for those on the lower economic spectrum (I don’t mean welfare, I mean those earning it on their own). It is a massive increase in terms of percentage of earning power. Its just harder to launch these days,even if you do everything you’re supposed to.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51645 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:24 am to
I think many grow up on a pop culture of sex, bling, and nihilism, believing that the ethics and order of things don't matter and that in order to BE successful, you must LOOK successful, and so if they can't immediately be that media pop star, able to whisk themselves away at a moment's notice, on their own jet, and have millions of followers telling them how awesome they are, they can't be successful. Most jobs, let's face it, are drudgery. It's real work, and who wants to do REAL work down with the dull, dirty masses when your aspirations are to be that media butterfly flitting from one amazing moment to another?

Too many grow up with no realization of the reality of life. It's brutal and spits out the weak.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
3050 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:29 am to
Reasons I'm broke:

1. I have a wife

2. I have two children

3. One child is in third year of college, and the is in med school

4. I'm self employed and pay for my families own medical care, premiums alone are $40,000 per year.

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19052 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:43 am to
“Why are they broke?”
Taxes
House or apt
Car notes, insurance, fuel
Food
School- primary & secondary
Electric / gas bill, phones,
General discretionary bills such as clothing, furniture, snacks, etc

If you are earning 75k a year in a household and live anywhere near a moderate size city then you are broke.
It’s by design, with inflation as bad it is and it’ll get much worse, or it’s ugly cousin deflation will raise its head, to a point where the system will be on the verge of collapse. If there is not a world war, an invention of magnitude that resets a course of industry titans then that ugly cousin will definitely show up. This 33-36 trillion that America is bad on paper and causing the inflation obviously but will never be paid outright. The rest of the world would crumble along with us if we fail. It’s a trick bag that governments and federal reserve’s around the world put us in.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:49 am to
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some of them are so terrible off financially?


Pretty simple really for the vast majority... No one taught them how to manage their money and resources... If they wanted it they bought it, even when they did not need it AND they have no clue the difference between a want and a need...

It has only gotten worse over time and will continue to get worse...
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181839 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:51 am to
Many put instant gratification over responsibility and their future.

Also, Peter Pan syndrome is real with a lot of millennials. Or as they call it "extended adolescence" Many never grow up which is also part of the instant gratification I mentioned earlier.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40211 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:12 am to
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You just repeated my question....
not following. Expound more on your statement pls.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:39 am to
You said maybe they dont earn like I do, which is a contributing factor to being broke. So why are so many of them in low paying jobs?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24526 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:55 am to
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1. Spending

This.

I'm squarely a millennial and my wife is on the border of millennial/gen z.

We don't make a ton of money, but we have enjoyed modest travel while dating and before kids.
If we went on a 15-20 day trip you can bet that more than half of the nights were spent in a tent and we'd have one luxury hotel or lodge for a couple of nights to relax after roughing it.
We've always wanted to go to Europe together, but we know that we don't really have the means to do it.

We have the cash, but know that we need that cash for other reasons (financial security).
It comes down to maturity, sacrifice, and delayed gratification.
We are blessed to have been taught that. I learned the hard way. My dad died without owning a single thing. It was all borrowed. I vowed not to be like him.

We have a nice house (to us) in a desirable area (to us) and we don't have expensive hobbies.
We read, we watch tv, we play with our son, and we splurge on a nice dinner now and then.
I grew up hunting, fishing, and playing golf. That's not feasible now and I'm totally ok with it.

Few people my age live like this. Especially the uneducated. Just calling it like I see it.

How much does your average Milennial and Gen Z spend on technology, food, drink, clothes, travel, and transportation? I'd love to know.
I'd imagine these are the things that get them.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:26 pm to
They eat out every meal, for one. Buy coffees at coffee shops. Those two things alone account for a lot of income.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117465 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:56 pm to
I'm a boomer. I know boomers who have been broke all their lives despite making decent money. The reason: 'I'm just not good at handling money.' They're not lying or making excuses. They simply never learn the difference between a 'need' and a 'want.' And math never enters their brains.

What we have with younger generations is exacerbated by the expansion of the welfare state starting in the 60s and 70s.
It's not just food stamps and section 8 housing. There are thousands of welfare programs out there. One of the best is 'I hurt my back'.
You can live OK while broke. But you won't get any girls.
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