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re: Suicide rates at all-time high driven mostly by American men.

Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:30 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:30 am to
The rich medley of measured takes in this thread is certainly shining a light on why suicide rates are at an all time high
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
30722 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:36 am to
Pretty wild takes on here...

I love women, always have.

Blaming them for men's high suicide rates is ridiculous.

If you get a car that gives you trouble, trade it in or sell it, but don't stop driving.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
37705 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:44 am to
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He asked me, when he was diagnosed, if I would make certain he could get to Washington State, where assisted suicide is legal, if he needed to. I promised him I would either drive him my self or fly with him and be by his side


this sounds like the plot of a really depressing road trip movie. Pull Gene Hackman out of retirement for it
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
30681 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:46 am to
It's because compared to women, women will bitch and complain and cry and get whatever they want without any effort. Men have to work their arse off for everything and when we do there's rarely even a thank you said. Any time we discuss shite that might actually bother us, women (and others) will tell us to shut the frick up and that since we're men we shouldn't be complaining or worrying about anything. We're being made to be silent about our problems.

Those numbers are not at all a surprise, and to me, it's one of the biggest issues in this country that isn't nearly being talked about enough.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:47 am to
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Over 75 and have no retirement savings.



Only correct answer.

People run out of money and dont want the struggle.

99% of people think its ok just to save in your little 401K and that should be good enough.

People also buy homes way too late to try to show everyone what they are about but can't pay it off until after 70. They dont calculate all those little things that make your day to day go around.

There are a lot of morons.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:49 am to
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Are you insinuating white men are bigger pussies than other demographics?


Whites have both the toughest people and the pussiest people on earth.

There i said it
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 10:50 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
66437 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:58 am to
I feel bad for the young men in this country.

Many of them grow up in homes where there is either no male role model or at best a weak and ineffective one.

They’re bombarded by propaganda from all angles that they are bad and evil unless they embrace feminism and homosexuality. Any sign of traditional male attitudes will bring swift condemnation with potential dire consequences.

Their options for marriage are bleak. And if they do find a girl to marry there’s a good chance she’ll one day out of the blue decide she’s “not happy” and then proceed to completely destroy his life.


Ours society has embraced a purely narcissistic viewpoint on life. Everyone is encouraged to persue a lifestyle endless, but shallow, titillation meaningless sexual encounters with no emotional attachment and seeking material gain while things like having a wife and kids are looked down upon. Basically American society has become Pleasure Island from the old Disney movie Pinocchio. And millions of young men (women too) have fallen into its trap. And once they finally realize this type of life leads to meaningless existence, its soul crushing.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
207857 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:04 am to
There are a lot of lonely men and women in this world. Anyone who is alone and basically has nobody left to care for but is in good health should have no reason to kill themselves. A terminal illness is just an awful thought. Nobody wants to be a burden, but I myself would just wait gif god to take me… but it would depend on how much pain I was in.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
37705 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:06 am to
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How many men refuse to seek help for their mental health because of societal pressure to suck it up buttercup?


I think this is part of it. Parents tend to listen to their daughter's emotions more than their sons.

If a guy wants to frick up his life, society often lets him. If a girl does, her family and friends tend to be there to stop it, or at worst some desperate man is willing to deal with her crazy bs.

My friends who are gone from either OD or Suicide all tended to have a self-destructive streak in them that at times could be seen as fun-loving and not the cry for help that they likely were. It is stuff that loved ones ignored until it was too late.

The most messed up self-destructive girls I knew who lived as fast as any of us, all now have kids and a nice husband or are still living off of dad. The Highwaymen sung about this phenomenon ages ago
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3434 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:08 am to
Sorry for the long post, but just my .02:

year to year, the younger generation suicide numbers are down, until you get to middle age men (over 35).

In my opinion, it IS in large part due to mass media/social media homogenizing "main stream" culture, but also rejecting any traditional values/cultures (traditional/western gender roles and successful/trail blazing men being looked down upon) in order to manipulate people politically/socially. Finally mass/social media protecting truly toxic values/culture with demographic division (examples are the devaluing of life with abortion and glorification of murderers, polygamy/sexual deviance, and rioting to get your way). This is in order to further control the social/political landscape because perpetual problems always need solutions ($$/Power).

When we are told that our choices are between main stream or obviously unhealthy/toxic paths, many fall into a situation of being someone they are not. This is tolerable until men's superficial value in society declines (looks, strength and profit potential). Then men realize they didn't live their own productive life and feel it's too late to learn who they are and what they live for!

Young men need to be encouraged to seek inner meaning by trying/learning things that aren't just what's popular, and then being allowed to experience failure until they find that thing they refuse to fail at because it lights that fire of meaning. However, in order to do that it requires some form of social isolation to reject what's popular and seek your own path. Main stream will usually attack what doesn't follow the perception of popularity, but when you try things and overcome failure, it strengthens your resolve when you understand failures don't define you if they are in pursuit of something good and not harmful to yourself/character.

TLDR: Mass/social media is homogenizing people by threatening isolation and embarrassment if someone fails at something outside of the expectations of the main stream. When people finally grow up to realize they've wasted time not living THEIR life, they feel it's too late and too much time wasted.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39248 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:11 am to
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Are you insinuating only pussies kill themselves?

My intent was to draw in a group of low T white men victims. How did my effort pan out?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7967 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:31 am to
There have been many studies/reports lately regarding male loneliness, already on the rise when COVID stepped in and exacerbated the issue.

We just don't have the communities we used to have. Everyone is online now, sending text messages, keeping up via social media...getting together feels like a chore. Men are even worse now at expressing their feelings to other men as close friendships become more rare. Dudes are bottling that shite up inside and some folks just can't handle it.

It's not great and there's no sign of things getting better. There's a dude named Scott Galloway who talks about this quite a bit and he's definitely worth checking out.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
38029 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:43 am to
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Why? Clot shots maybe?


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HillabeeBaw

Look at this tard.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
35217 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:50 am to
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I love women, always have.


Me too. BUT a lot of women today are flat out terrible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:52 am to
Feminism.

Dudes are are naturally driven to compete, to grind, to build and grow. Feminism is the opposite of that.

The world has become too feminine.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
17101 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:58 am to
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My intent was to draw in a group of low T white men victims. How did my effort pan out?


You sound like a psychopath. No offense.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:05 pm to
Feminism has destroyed western civilization.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25083 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:06 pm to
You mean there is more pressure on men in our society??
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21101 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Suicide rates at all-time high driven mostly by American men.


According to quite a few idiots on this site I've learned that these men are just "soft" and "weak," and should just get on with life. Excellent medical knowledge on this site.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Whites have both the toughest people and the pussiest people on earth.


You aint wrong. The top 10% carry the rest of us. White people really arent impressive overall.
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