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re: Paramount + Documentary- JFK-What the Doctors Saw
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:40 pm to SeminoleMarine
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:40 pm to SeminoleMarine
You're right.. That is exactly what he said..
Posted on 11/16/23 at 1:31 pm to SeminoleMarine
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I saw the trailer and one of the doctors said that they thought the throat wound was the entrance wound and the wound in the back of the head was the exit wound.
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Around the 1:30 mark, that is exactly what he said Neck wound
Not so fast.
This testimony was covered as far back as Mark Lane’s first book, Rush to Judgement in 1966.
These doctors said that the throat was AN entrance wound, and the back of the head was AN exit wound.
They never said it was the same shot. In fact, they believed the neck shot exited through the hole in the back of his neck/back through his coat collar.
They thought the head shot was both an entrance and exit wound, possibly hitting him in the side of the head above his right ear and exiting out the back of the parietal bone in the back.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 1:47 pm to rebelrouser
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I was being sarcastic. This incident has been done to death. Forensic experts have proven that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter. Every single conspiracy theory has been logically explained. The movie JFK was almost pure fiction.
FALSE.
The Warren Report was almost certainly pure fiction. They started with a conclusion and ignored anything that didn't fit their predetermined outcome.
There is a ton of evidence to support a conspiracy, involving at least a second shooter from the front. Many of the Parkland doctors definitively stated that the throat wound was an entry point, not an exit point, and the large hole in the back of JFK's head was most certainly an exit wound, as was very clearly demonstrated from the Zapruder film.
Tons of problems with the timelines laid out both for the JFK and Tippit murders.
Way too many details to get into in this forum, but please get your head out of the sand on this. Your government is lying to you, repeatedly, on this and so many other topics.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:19 pm to LJBurton
I just got finished watching to documentary. I'm surprised they didn't mention the bullet that was allegedly found on the table once the corpse was taken from the hospital.
Regarding the Warren report, I don't put much stock in it because they started with the conclusion of a single shooter and tried to make the evidence fit that conclusion.
In regards to the government lying about something, duh...
Regarding the Warren report, I don't put much stock in it because they started with the conclusion of a single shooter and tried to make the evidence fit that conclusion.
In regards to the government lying about something, duh...
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:24 pm to LJBurton
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They started with a conclusion and ignored anything that didn't fit their predetermined outcome.
I've seen several documentaries by forensic scientists that did not start w/ a conclusion. The simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that JFK was shot by more than one person. I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:27 pm to rebelrouser
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I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
Was it with the same rifle and scope?
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The Mannlicher-Carcano was a cheap, old, unreliable make, known in the Italian Army as the "humanitarian rifle," on the ground that it could not hurt anyone on purpose. It was testified that the scope on the rifle was mounted for a left-handed user. Oswald was right-handed. Also, the sights were misaligned, and shims had to be inserted to aim properly.
The Warren Commission conducted simulated test firings, a pointless exercise as they took place after corrective adjustments of the scope and sights. Even so, none of the Olympic-class Army riflemen who participated in the tests were able to duplicate the alleged feat of Oswald in firing so rapidly and accurately.
Proponents of the Warren Commission have never clearly explained how it reached conclusions contrary to so much of the evidence it itself assembled. HUDSON HATCHER Bronxville, N.Y., Feb. 15, 1992 The writer qualified as an expert on the M1 rifle in the Army.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:47 pm to rebelrouser
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I've seen several documentaries by forensic scientists that did not start w/ a conclusion. The simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that JFK was shot by more than one person. I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
The Carcano purported to be the murder weapon had a defective scope, which complicates the idea that "experts" duplicated the 3 shots. Did they also use defective scopes in their simulations?
One shot hit a curb and injured James Teague, leaving 2 bullets to do the rest of the damage. One of which was supposedly discovered at the hospital in near pristine condition. So many bad facts for the "lone nut" theory. The ballistics just don't work to support one shooter.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:56 pm to tigerfan84
I'm curious as to when these doctors were interviewed. 60 years later and they all look incredible for their age.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:59 pm to RoyalBaby
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I'm curious as to when these doctors were interviewed. 60 years later and they all look incredible for their age.
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 3:23 pm to bad93ex
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The assassination of a US President is only slightly more significant than what you had for lunch two days ago and I am sure these folks can remember it like it was yesterday.
I still remember 911 to great detail
Posted on 11/16/23 at 3:26 pm to LJBurton
[sarcasm] But you are forgetting one essential fact! The Bullet was magic! [/sarcasm]
I wish I was totally joking but the "magic bullet" really was the best our government could come up with and made it into the final report...
I wish I was totally joking but the "magic bullet" really was the best our government could come up with and made it into the final report...
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:10 pm to LJBurton
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One shot hit a curb and injured James Teague, leaving 2 bullets to do the rest of the damage.
And they have got to lace through Kennedy and the governor.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:17 pm to rebelrouser
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I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:12 am to LJBurton
After visiting the Book Depository, I don’t understand why Oswald wouldn’t have shot when the car was headed directly toward him, rather than after it made the turn and was headed away from him. From his position he should have had a clear chest shot.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 7:14 am
Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:55 am to Free888
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After visiting the Book Depository, I don’t understand why Oswald wouldn’t have shot when the car was headed directly toward him, rather than after it made the turn and was headed away from him. From his position he should have had a clear chest shot.
Id guess because everyone in the motorcade would've seen him in the window and the flash. At least waiting until it turned, presumably everyone in motorcade and audience was looking away from his position. He wasn't the brightest fella, it doesn't appear, so maybe he was just late getting setup
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:05 pm to rebelrouser
Wrong. The United States Government has literally stated a 2nd shooter was there and a Conspiracy took place. Educate yourself.
archives.gov
“ Findings
C. The Committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The Committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy.”
archives.gov
“ Findings
C. The Committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The Committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy.”
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:28 pm to rebelrouser
“The simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that JFK was shot by more than one person.”
- Wrong. See my previous post proving you wrong.
“I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
- yet a Navy Seal who qualified as an Expert Marksman cannot make the shot that was claimed to have been made, in the time claimed to have been made, using the same rifle that was claimed to have been used.
- Wrong. See my previous post proving you wrong.
“I've seen numerous snipers duplicate the three shots on a similar moving target with no problem.
- yet a Navy Seal who qualified as an Expert Marksman cannot make the shot that was claimed to have been made, in the time claimed to have been made, using the same rifle that was claimed to have been used.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:38 pm to JDPndahizzy
First of all Oswald probably used the iron sights to shoot Kennedy.
He qualified as a sharpshooter in the Marines with a score of 212 out of a possible 250 with an M-1 rifle. Marines started at targets at 200 yards. The last shot on Kennedy was less than 100.
The shots took approximately 8.4 seconds. So he had 8 seconds to work the bolt and fire 2 more rounds after the first shot.
The shots have been duplicated and achieved with even better results than Oswald did. In the 60s CBS replicated the shots.
The Warren commission fired Oswald's rifle 47 times if memory serves me correctly. They found it be accurate, as accurate as the U.S. military M-1.
He qualified as a sharpshooter in the Marines with a score of 212 out of a possible 250 with an M-1 rifle. Marines started at targets at 200 yards. The last shot on Kennedy was less than 100.
The shots took approximately 8.4 seconds. So he had 8 seconds to work the bolt and fire 2 more rounds after the first shot.
The shots have been duplicated and achieved with even better results than Oswald did. In the 60s CBS replicated the shots.
The Warren commission fired Oswald's rifle 47 times if memory serves me correctly. They found it be accurate, as accurate as the U.S. military M-1.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:43 pm to JackDempsey
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First of all Oswald probably used the iron sights to shoot Kennedy.
He qualified as a sharpshooter in the Marines with a score of 212 out of a possible 250 with an M-1 rifle. Marines started at targets at 200 yards. The last shot on Kennedy was less than 100.
The shots took approximately 8.4 seconds. So he had 8 seconds to work the bolt and fire 2 more rounds after the first shot.
The shots have been duplicated and achieved with even better results than Oswald did. In the 60s CBS replicated the shots.
The Warren commission fired Oswald's rifle 47 times if memory serves me correctly. They found it be accurate, as accurate as the U.S. military M-1.
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