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OT mechanics: Vehicle reliability - Mileage vs Age
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am
Some baws and me were having a discussion in the man cave last night. What is more important, reliable, or reference for wear/tear….the age of a vehicle or the mileage. My take was age.
Example…a 12 year old truck with 80,000 miles vs a 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles. What’s the better buy?
Go!
Example…a 12 year old truck with 80,000 miles vs a 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles. What’s the better buy?
Go!
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am to BabyTac
Is it a Toyota or a Land Rover?
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:01 am to BabyTac
Need more info. Is the 12/80,000 local mileage, whereas the 7/140,000 is highway?
Brand is still relevant. A Toyota engine with 140,000 still has plenty of miles on it vs one that has 80,000. I wouldn’t say that for other brands. On the other hand, technology differences on a 7 vs 12 year old Toyota is probably much less than a 7 and 12 year old GM.
Brand is still relevant. A Toyota engine with 140,000 still has plenty of miles on it vs one that has 80,000. I wouldn’t say that for other brands. On the other hand, technology differences on a 7 vs 12 year old Toyota is probably much less than a 7 and 12 year old GM.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am to BabyTac
Interesting question. My car is 11 years old with 97,000. I cannot think of a good reason to get rid of it tbh. I'm the only owner and take outstanding care of it.
I see no reason I can't keep it running for another 5-6 years at least.
I hate cars and only have one because we have trash public transportation in the US.
I see no reason I can't keep it running for another 5-6 years at least.
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I hate cars and only have one because we have trash public transportation in the US.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:06 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am to BabyTac
as already mentioned it depends on the make and even the model but you are asking for generalities. In general, I would take the newer higher mileage vehicle but there is obviously a break-over point for somewhere.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:05 am to BabyTac
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What is more important, reliable, or reference for wear/tear….the age of a vehicle or the mileage.
#1 Reliable, otherwise I'm not buying it.
(In other words, I'll pay more for a Tacoma vs, any Chevy, Ford, Dodge equivalent.)
and mileage over age.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:11 am to BabyTac
In my experience it’s all about the types of mileage. I had a truck in our department we used to run parts all over the region. With basic maintenance we got 280k miles out of it before someone T bones the truck in an intersection.
I had a 10 year ild Sierra that I towed a trailer cross country at 120k miles. That was the begin of the end as the transmission started acting up at 140k miles. Also, after 10 years random shite kept breaking like the door handles and the lock on the tailgate.
I had a 10 year ild Sierra that I towed a trailer cross country at 120k miles. That was the begin of the end as the transmission started acting up at 140k miles. Also, after 10 years random shite kept breaking like the door handles and the lock on the tailgate.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:18 am to BabyTac
im not a mechanic but a chemical eng. I think there is a driving failure mechanism for age and for mileage.
For age, it's corrosion, swelling of soft goods (gaskets and o-rings) in oil or gas services, degradation of components, oxidation of electrical terminals, and things like that. I would expect that these are very slow and easily repairable. Storage conditions would play a role.
For mileage, it's the number of times each component has been actuated or stressed, thermal cycling, and accelerated corrosion or degradation due to more time at high heat. Moving parts are designed with a finite number of movements. I think this is the primary driver of reliability.
Anyway, thats my 2 cents.
For age, it's corrosion, swelling of soft goods (gaskets and o-rings) in oil or gas services, degradation of components, oxidation of electrical terminals, and things like that. I would expect that these are very slow and easily repairable. Storage conditions would play a role.
For mileage, it's the number of times each component has been actuated or stressed, thermal cycling, and accelerated corrosion or degradation due to more time at high heat. Moving parts are designed with a finite number of movements. I think this is the primary driver of reliability.
Anyway, thats my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:20 am to BabyTac
Age effects rubber and plastic components. Rubber gets hard and starts to crack. PLastic gets brittle and breaks.
Doesn't matter what brand as a vehicle ages you need to start replacing plastic and rubber bits as the vehicle gets older. Good example is the plastic hose T's that get brittle and fail on older Toyotas. $11 part that takes 15 minutes to change. But can kill the whole motor if it goes and you don't notice. But those parts tend to be cheaper and easier to replace and usually a DIY sort of job.
Mileage equates to mechanical wear. Lubrication, heat, speed, and load all effect mechanical wear and can't really be judge by mileage itself.
Doesn't matter what brand as a vehicle ages you need to start replacing plastic and rubber bits as the vehicle gets older. Good example is the plastic hose T's that get brittle and fail on older Toyotas. $11 part that takes 15 minutes to change. But can kill the whole motor if it goes and you don't notice. But those parts tend to be cheaper and easier to replace and usually a DIY sort of job.
Mileage equates to mechanical wear. Lubrication, heat, speed, and load all effect mechanical wear and can't really be judge by mileage itself.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:23 am to BabyTac
Depends on the manufacturer comparison. Is one a Toyota and one a Ford? Both Chevrolet? Dodge and any other manufacturer?
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:34 am to BabyTac
Mileage.
A 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles is nuts. Way too high. On one hand it could be mostly highway miles which is good. But still I wouldn’t buy a “new-ish” car with that many miles.
A 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles is nuts. Way too high. On one hand it could be mostly highway miles which is good. But still I wouldn’t buy a “new-ish” car with that many miles.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:40 am to BabyTac
The one that has more highway miles and has been properly serviced.
A body on frame Japanese SUV is pretty bulletproof.
A body on frame Japanese SUV is pretty bulletproof.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:41 am to BabyTac
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Example…a 12 year old truck with 80,000 miles vs a 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles. What’s the better buy?
Too close to call in this instance. I would favor lower mileage most of the time.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:21 am to BabyTac
The older one is better just take Nissan kia hundai off the table they are disposable cars engines everything junk I would take a 12 year old Toyota with 120k on it vs 80k miles & 2015 American anything
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