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OT mechanics: Vehicle reliability - Mileage vs Age

Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am
Some baws and me were having a discussion in the man cave last night. What is more important, reliable, or reference for wear/tear….the age of a vehicle or the mileage. My take was age.

Example…a 12 year old truck with 80,000 miles vs a 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles. What’s the better buy?

Go!
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
2949 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:58 am to
Is it a Toyota or a Land Rover?
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:04 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
1699 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:01 am to
Need more info. Is the 12/80,000 local mileage, whereas the 7/140,000 is highway?

Brand is still relevant. A Toyota engine with 140,000 still has plenty of miles on it vs one that has 80,000. I wouldn’t say that for other brands. On the other hand, technology differences on a 7 vs 12 year old Toyota is probably much less than a 7 and 12 year old GM.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:07 am
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7959 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am to
Interesting question. My car is 11 years old with 97,000. I cannot think of a good reason to get rid of it tbh. I'm the only owner and take outstanding care of it.

I see no reason I can't keep it running for another 5-6 years at least.

I hate cars and only have one because we have trash public transportation in the US.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26170 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am to
as already mentioned it depends on the make and even the model but you are asking for generalities. In general, I would take the newer higher mileage vehicle but there is obviously a break-over point for somewhere.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9963 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

What is more important, reliable, or reference for wear/tear….the age of a vehicle or the mileage.

#1 Reliable, otherwise I'm not buying it.
(In other words, I'll pay more for a Tacoma vs, any Chevy, Ford, Dodge equivalent.)

and mileage over age.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1254 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:11 am to
In my experience it’s all about the types of mileage. I had a truck in our department we used to run parts all over the region. With basic maintenance we got 280k miles out of it before someone T bones the truck in an intersection.

I had a 10 year ild Sierra that I towed a trailer cross country at 120k miles. That was the begin of the end as the transmission started acting up at 140k miles. Also, after 10 years random shite kept breaking like the door handles and the lock on the tailgate.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7030 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:18 am to
im not a mechanic but a chemical eng. I think there is a driving failure mechanism for age and for mileage.

For age, it's corrosion, swelling of soft goods (gaskets and o-rings) in oil or gas services, degradation of components, oxidation of electrical terminals, and things like that. I would expect that these are very slow and easily repairable. Storage conditions would play a role.

For mileage, it's the number of times each component has been actuated or stressed, thermal cycling, and accelerated corrosion or degradation due to more time at high heat. Moving parts are designed with a finite number of movements. I think this is the primary driver of reliability.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:44 am
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4065 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:20 am to
Age effects rubber and plastic components. Rubber gets hard and starts to crack. PLastic gets brittle and breaks.
Doesn't matter what brand as a vehicle ages you need to start replacing plastic and rubber bits as the vehicle gets older. Good example is the plastic hose T's that get brittle and fail on older Toyotas. $11 part that takes 15 minutes to change. But can kill the whole motor if it goes and you don't notice. But those parts tend to be cheaper and easier to replace and usually a DIY sort of job.

Mileage equates to mechanical wear. Lubrication, heat, speed, and load all effect mechanical wear and can't really be judge by mileage itself.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12928 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:23 am to
Depends on the manufacturer comparison. Is one a Toyota and one a Ford? Both Chevrolet? Dodge and any other manufacturer?
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5493 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:34 am to
Mileage.

A 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles is nuts. Way too high. On one hand it could be mostly highway miles which is good. But still I wouldn’t buy a “new-ish” car with that many miles.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4119 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:35 am to
Mileage
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27608 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:40 am to
The one that has more highway miles and has been properly serviced.

A body on frame Japanese SUV is pretty bulletproof.

Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Example…a 12 year old truck with 80,000 miles vs a 6 year old truck with 140,000 miles. What’s the better buy?

Too close to call in this instance. I would favor lower mileage most of the time.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17910 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:21 am to
The older one is better just take Nissan kia hundai off the table they are disposable cars engines everything junk I would take a 12 year old Toyota with 120k on it vs 80k miles & 2015 American anything
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