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re: UPDATE 11/30:Finalized new LHSAA districts released… changes in the Catholic League?

Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:52 pm to
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Except for that whole 1 out of our last 50 dating back to 1984

Even this year’s team has a lower computer rating than any Catholic League team. It’s like going from the minors to the majors and I heard we will appeal


I should have clarified.

Not on the football field.

From a cultural point of view. Chalmette has more in common with the catholic schools, top to bottom, on and off field, then either Karr or WE does.

On the football field, we are going to have some catching up to do, no doubt.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:04 pm to
destrehan was in 3a until 1990 or 91 i think
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:04 pm to
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5A-6 should be a blast!


Interesting that Salmen moved up to 5A. They've been 4A for as long as I can remember. Also interesting that the Northshore 5A district will now have 9 teams.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:10 pm to
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Also interesting that the Northshore 5A district will now have 9 teams.


My idea would be to split it in 2

Mandeville, Covington, St Paul’s, Ponchatoula, Hammond

And…

Northshore, Slidell, Fontainebleau, Salmen, and Chalmette. Maybe others will play up
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:21 pm to
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Northshore, Slidell, Fontainebleau, Salmen, and Chalmette.


St Tammanard District

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Mandeville, Covington, St Paul’s, Ponchatoula, Hammond


The "We don't want St Bernard people around here" district
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:38 pm to
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My idea would be to split it in 2


Probably not a bad idea. 9 teams seems way too crowded, and would mean that all but 2 regular season games would be district games.

Now, how to split them up is the interesting question.

Under the new enrollment numbers, the current district has 3 schools in Slidell (Slidell, Northshore, and Salmen), 2 schools in Mandeville (Mandeville and Fontainebleau), 2 schools in Covington (Covington and St. Paul's), and 2 schools in Tangipahoa Parish (Hammond and Pontchatoula).
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:15 pm to
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Probably not a bad idea. 9 teams seems way too crowded, and would mean that all but 2 regular season games would be district games. Now, how to split them up is the interesting question. Under the new enrollment numbers, the current district has 3 schools in Slidell (Slidell, Northshore, and Salmen), 2 schools in Mandeville (Mandeville and Fontainebleau), 2 schools in Covington (Covington and St. Paul's), and 2 schools in Tangipahoa Parish (Hammond and Pontchatoula).


What the LHSAA needs to do is, have another period for teams to declare to play up after the districts are made… like for example if they made the Slidell/Salmen/Northshore/Fontainebleau/Chalmette district, maybe Pearl River or Lakeshore may want into it but as it is they don’t have that option
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:35 pm to
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The top teams in D3 select(Uhigh, Calvary, Notre Dame, Dunham) can definitely beat LCA on any given Friday night.


Dunham will be strong next couple of years with that stud QB.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:47 pm to
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St Tammanard District


twin span district
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Mandeville, Covington, St Paul’s, Ponchatoula, Hammond


causeway/i55 district

Posted by Andy Bernard
Cornell University
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:22 pm to
The LHSAA just needs to get rid of district play. The districts don't mean anything anymore. Also, with the power rankings in place, if you play a weak district you get screwed in your ranking. Just let the schools schedule whoever you want. District titles don't mean anything anymore
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:39 am to
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The districts don't mean anything anymore.
and who made it that way? Years of LHSAA rule changes to devalue district play in every sport

Now granted the other extreme is Texas where district play is the only thing that matters in the regular season…

The brackets are too big… drop the 28 and 24 team playoff brackets to 16 (make the regular season 11 games) with all district champions guaranteed in and placed in the bracket first to get home games and it will mean something again. You can still use the power rating system to fill in wildcards in each bracket and if there’s a few three way ties, you might be out of luck
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 12:41 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:48 am to
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The LHSAA just needs to get rid of district play.
the elite top 10% and bottom 10% would never fill out their schedules. even more so with the split - especially with upper 25% of select and non select having to likely face each their counterparts again in the playoffs.

the bottom 10-20% wouldn't get scheduled because they draw 15 people.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:49 am to
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While districts can't kick anyone out... I do wonder if the Catholic schools made some calls to the LHSAA to say they really didn't want Karr, and really really didn't want Easton, what with their recent eligibility problems.


karr wanted out $$$$ .
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:41 am to
Help me out. Am I reading this correctly that LCA will be playing football in district 6-2A with lowly Lake Arthur and Welsh?
District
Posted by H2A2
South
Member since Jun 2023
142 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:06 pm to
Their other programs aren't fairing as well as their football team so they are playing in their correct enrollment division instead of playing up. Also losing Johnson will definitely make them look different next few seasons
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:40 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30560 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:31 pm to
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Georgia splits private/public for the smallest school classification.
That's where the problems are that caused the split in Louisiana. No way many rural A, AA, and AAA public schools can compete with privates and some charters in cities.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30805 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:38 pm to
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That's where the problems are that caused the split in Louisiana. No way many rural A, AA, and AAA public schools can compete with privates and some charters in cities.
it was the 10 years that 2 schools that the 4a and 5a schools couldn't compete with and forced them down on the little guys... that caused the split. have they left those 2 in 4a and 5a all is still well.

the rise of charters is a recent and different animal, that is being dealt with correctly.

look up ECA's and JC's record vs "urban and suburban" schools in the 8 years before the split.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 7:39 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:46 pm to
I'm going to keep saying this... it is absolutely asinine that we are continuing to use a class system for districts and a division system for playoffs.

We need to either 1) have seperate districts for select and non-select or 2) Allow select and non-select to compete in the same districts, but only have 4 divisions of districts instead of 5 classes

(same rationale applies to sports with 5 divisions and 7 classes)

I think district championship still means something to the players... it's still a championship, a shirt, a year on the banner, etc.

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with all district champions guaranteed in and placed in the bracket first to get home games and it will mean something again. You can still use the power rating system to fill in wildcards in each bracket and if there’s a few three way ties, you might be out of luck


Would you still use the power ratings to seed the 16 teams... i.e if you have 10 districts... 10 champions, 6 wild cards, then seeded by PR?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:03 pm to
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Would you still use the power ratings to seed the 16 teams... i.e if you have 10 districts... 10 champions, 6 wild cards, then seeded by PR?
you don’t have 10 champions every time because some are select and some are nonselect

But if that was the case you’d seed (with the PR) the champions first from 1-10 and then 11-16 would be the wildcards after that
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 11:04 pm
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