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re: Are you confident with Nuss as the starter going into 24?

Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6448 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:28 am to
Holy excuses Nuss-bussers!

“Wasn’t ready”
“Thrust into the game”
“Not expecting to play”
“Down 14 in Tuscaloosa too much pressure for his shoulders.

As excuses as to why he played poorly.

“Needs games to get his feet wet.”

I’m not saying he needs to be Tim brady coming in for Bledsoe but come on. Imagine y’all saying those things about other quarterbacks.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:29 am to
Nope
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56721 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:32 am to
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Stetson Bennet just won back to back National Championships running all over the place.

HE actually did. And I would love to see Nuss drop a few pounds and be able to take the broken plays for a run or two a game. Nuss may have the arm talent to offset, but being mobile is such an advantage.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6902 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:35 am to
Need a transfer QB. If this makes Nuss scared of competition and transfer, then he is not man enough to run this team.

QB 1 must be earned not given.

Pratt from Tulane would be one I would look at but I would check out any QB in the portal or who can be "recruited" into the portal to come in.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5222 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:50 am to
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10 rushing TDs in one year , 4.67 40 at combine

I never said you need a 1k yard rusher at qb. But you aren’t winning with a qb who doesn’t even have it in his arsenal

But this is why you can’t talk real football on this site because y’all are idiots who don’t really know/watch football

Stetson Bennet is a far more athletic QB than Nuss. A blind man can see that


Easy there fella. I haven't ever been on the Nuss bus either but I think that we can win with him next season. I just think your original comment is a little off.

The Quarterback for the #1 team in America Ohio State has -57 yards rushing on the year. Michigan's guy is averaging 3.7 per carry.

Nuss was clocked at a 4.8 coming into college Bennet was a 4.67 at 23 years old. Bennet averaged 3.8 yards per carry in his career. I wouldn't classify him as a mobile QB. And I never said Nuss was more athletic than him. Neither are mobile QBs is the point.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9195 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:53 am to
I think Nuss would have the same record.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
7094 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:57 am to
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Our OL will be great, RBs great. TEs will be better. WRs will take some time but in no way will our Offense be bad.


Hit the nail on the head here...
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5796 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:19 am to
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…but he did leave a bit to be desired.


Same could be said about JD for 4 starting seasons.

2018 Joe was thought at first to be keeping seat warm for Brennon to have his weight gaining redshirt season.

I think like any new starter there is going to be a learning period and building up confidence. I don’t think Nuss will be given same chance to get comfortable over a season like JD was given as Nuss can’t just make big runs (or just take over team and the locker room like Joe did in 2018), so he will need to show flashes of what he can be and how he can be developed further over those first 3 to 4 games.

Nuss has the arm, and he is a coaches son which are both positives. It also can’t be the same offense. Nuss can make more throws on a rope and get ball to receiver quicker with his velocity, but RBs have to be focus for running game which still needs to be successful to not have defenses sitting back defending the pass and front 4 focused only on pass rushing especially with early starts. Nuss also has to learn not to force and that he is going to get baited by defenses playing into any over confidence he has with his arm strength. That is an adjustment he can only truly make with more consistent playing as I doubt need for that adjustment is being pushed much in practices against LSU’s defense along with no true pass rush and getting hit in those practices.

Nuss has had one start that I can remember (2021 Arkansas I think), so how he develops after several games as a starter and leader is still unknown.

If we don’t improve defense in off season next years offense regardless of starter is going to have to protect defense more than it does currently and be able to run clock more in second half of games when leading. Also maybe taking some snaps from center based on situation would be helpful.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3293 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:21 am to
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Nuss has had one start that I can remember (2021 Arkansas I think), so how he develops after several games as a starter and leader is still unknown.


He came in that game for Max Johnson. Nuss has yet to start a game at LSU.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:25 am to
No. I'm not confident he's the guy. He's looked downright awful on too many occasions. I don't think he currently has the head to be QB.

This thread is filled with talk about the o-line, but that doesn't mean Nuss should be the starter. It doesn't mean you should start a suboptimal QB just because he he'll look less suboptimal. It just means whoever the starter is should have good protection.

The QB position is far and away the most important position on the team. LSU needs the best person to play the position, not just someone who's hung around for awhile.

Nuss Bussers "hope" Nuss is the man. Kelly is too smart to "hope" for success. Four of the last six Heisman winners have been transfer quarterbacks. Kelly will scrutinize the portal for a QB. He should, and he will, grab a QB if he thinks it gives LSU a better chance for victory.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56721 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:47 am to
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I think Nuss would have the same record.

No, we def lose to Missou with Nuss and probably Arkansas.
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
776 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:00 am to
You can bring Burrow back but with this defense it doesnt change anything
Posted by Rdanielson38
Member since Oct 2023
208 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:03 am to
It’s inevitable LSU will take a QB in the transfer portal. It’s the state of college football. Doesn’t matter ones level of confidence in Nussmeier, it’s just the status quo for college football.
Specific to LSU, I don’t think Collins is ready to be a SEC QB. Kelly will bring in a starter from somewhere to compete with Nussmeier to start in ‘24.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
909 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:10 pm to
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It’s practically malfeasance to not take a call from a big time transfer in 2024.


TBH, I can't think of a single "big time" QB that would consider transferring to LSU.

Not that we aren't a good program to transfer to, I just don't think that anyone considered to be a slam-dunk pick over Nuss is hitting the portal.

Plus, as I've said in other threads (and others have said here), you really can't evaluate Nuss on anything other than sheer arm talent until he becomes QB1. He needs an offseason running with the 1's and working with the OC to scheme offensive calls to his strengths and skillset (just like they did for JD this year).

My opinion: Nuss has everything you want from a "next man up" potential QB1, and I don't foresee anyone with more potential than him even being available (much less coming to LSU in the portal).
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167163 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:13 pm to
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Are you confident with Nuss as the starter going into 24?


10000%


Am I confident with the surround talent and coaching staff.....

not really.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67836 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:16 pm to
i think there are been some times where he really looked great. After the bowl game and UGA last year i really thought he could steal Danielsms job if Daniels didn’t fix his issues

but at times he’s also looked fricking terrible.

I wouldnt be scared if we only had Nuss in 2024 but if there is someone really dynamic in the portal I dont thank you pass on him.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19940 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:20 pm to
A transfer qb is coming
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14200 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
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There is a big difference between the guy taking all the #1 reps and the backup thrust into a game


@Bama too.

Nuss will be fine after getting all the reps. I trust Sloan.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
909 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:27 pm to
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He’s not that good. We have a bunch of mouth breathers who think one half of garbage time is relevant, but every opportunity he’s had, he’s shown he’s not very good.

I disagree with your assessment, because you're making it based on very thin evidence.

Nearly everyone would agree that Nuss hasn't played up to JD's standards, but is that so surprising? I don't know what you're expecting from a kid with talent but no real OJT with the first-string offense (one designed for a QB with much different skills).

If you're going to judge Nuss as a potential QB1, you should really only consider three things:

1: Potential: does he have the raw skills to be an excellent quarterback?

2: Development: do you have faith in our offensive coaches to take a talented (but raw and experienced) QB and scheme an offense around him that will give him the best chance of being successful?

3: Competition: Is there anyone else - on the team or possible transfers - that have more potential than the person you already have?

4: (Bonus) Commitment: do you place any value on how committed a potential 1st-string player is to the team, the school and the coaching staff?

In my opinion, Nuss grades out very high on those points.

And, regardless of what you think about Nuss' performance in the very few opportunities he's had with the 1's, I don't think there's another player on our team or likely to transfer in that offers a better option at QB in '24 than Nuss.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
909 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:33 pm to
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rhetorical question, but this is what everyone judged him on, which was frickin crazy lol

quote:
He looked good in the SECCG.

I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but his performance in the SECCG simply showed the talent and potential he brings - assuming he gets the chance at an offseason of work with the 1's and a gameplan built to his skills.

Even the most talented QB recruit to sign a LOI still only brings potential - not guarantees - to his new school. It's no different with Nuss, and you have to look at what he could be next year, given the chance and the coaching.

At this point, anyone saying anything other than "boy, that kid has a lot of talent, and I can't wait to see what he does with a full offseason running with the 1's" doesn't understand how long it takes a QB1 to be ready for the big lights.
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