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Shapiro Angry with Tucker
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:48 pm
Saw this on Greenwald's YouTube Channel 12 min long
Summary - I have never seen Ben Shapiro this angry. If I'm being honest, this makes me question who Ben feels a primary allegiance toward: Israel or the US. I don't see him, and have never seen him, this angry about things in the US, even though there is an obvious effort to destroy this nation right now. I'm curious if he burned a bridge with Tucker, since part of his rant included insults.
Glenn's comments
- Tucker's basic argument is that Hamas' actions are reprehensible and Israel has a right to respond. However, that does not mean this becomes an American war and that it doesn't mean that an attack on Israel is an attack on the US.
- Plays a clip of Tucker's comments. Tucker says that wisdom and long term thinking are absent and he plays a clip from Nikki equating this with an attack on the US. Nikki says to "finish them" and Tucker calls her a child. Then he plays a clip of Lindsey with the same general message, even saying that if Hezbollah attacks then the US should attack Iran. Then later Graham seemed to remove that qualifier and just advocated going after Iran. Graham is asked "you'd want to bomb Iran even in the absence of direct evidence they were involved in this attack?" and Graham responds, "Yeah". Graham thinks we are beyond the need for direct evidence, meaning the pretext for attacking Iran is already established.
- Glenn plays clip of Tucker assailing Graham, and Tucker comments about Crenshaw as well who had similar comments as Graham.
- Then Glenn plays comments from Shapiro, who was outraged. Shapiro is immediately snarky as he gives running commentary on Tucker's comments (my comment: the opening snark was a good indicator of what was to come). Tucker says people are not as animated about the 100,000 Americans killed due to the border, and Shapiro tries to dispute that and says people are on bullhorns about it all the time. (my comment: I think Shapiro's anger essentially exposes Tucker's comments as well as his general point, as true)
Shapiro says Tucker is trying to minimize what happened in Israel. Ben begins frothing at the mouth saying that border related deaths are not like the terror acts in Israel. (my comment - in one respect I see Ben's point, but the totality in number is also an important aspect, as well as the simplicity of the solution, of just securing the border, not to mention the fact that the border causes more death and terror than just the drug-related deaths).
- Glenn chimes in and points out another issue is that Israel is a foreign country and a great distinction here is talking about America and Americans v talking about people from a foreign nation.
- Glenn plays more of Ben, who gets angrier, and says that Tucker's position is idiocy and stupidity. It's just non-stop anger sprinkled with some insults from Ben. (my comment: I'm curious if Ben may have burned a bridge with Tucker)
Summary - I have never seen Ben Shapiro this angry. If I'm being honest, this makes me question who Ben feels a primary allegiance toward: Israel or the US. I don't see him, and have never seen him, this angry about things in the US, even though there is an obvious effort to destroy this nation right now. I'm curious if he burned a bridge with Tucker, since part of his rant included insults.
Glenn's comments
- Tucker's basic argument is that Hamas' actions are reprehensible and Israel has a right to respond. However, that does not mean this becomes an American war and that it doesn't mean that an attack on Israel is an attack on the US.
- Plays a clip of Tucker's comments. Tucker says that wisdom and long term thinking are absent and he plays a clip from Nikki equating this with an attack on the US. Nikki says to "finish them" and Tucker calls her a child. Then he plays a clip of Lindsey with the same general message, even saying that if Hezbollah attacks then the US should attack Iran. Then later Graham seemed to remove that qualifier and just advocated going after Iran. Graham is asked "you'd want to bomb Iran even in the absence of direct evidence they were involved in this attack?" and Graham responds, "Yeah". Graham thinks we are beyond the need for direct evidence, meaning the pretext for attacking Iran is already established.
- Glenn plays clip of Tucker assailing Graham, and Tucker comments about Crenshaw as well who had similar comments as Graham.
- Then Glenn plays comments from Shapiro, who was outraged. Shapiro is immediately snarky as he gives running commentary on Tucker's comments (my comment: the opening snark was a good indicator of what was to come). Tucker says people are not as animated about the 100,000 Americans killed due to the border, and Shapiro tries to dispute that and says people are on bullhorns about it all the time. (my comment: I think Shapiro's anger essentially exposes Tucker's comments as well as his general point, as true)
Shapiro says Tucker is trying to minimize what happened in Israel. Ben begins frothing at the mouth saying that border related deaths are not like the terror acts in Israel. (my comment - in one respect I see Ben's point, but the totality in number is also an important aspect, as well as the simplicity of the solution, of just securing the border, not to mention the fact that the border causes more death and terror than just the drug-related deaths).
- Glenn chimes in and points out another issue is that Israel is a foreign country and a great distinction here is talking about America and Americans v talking about people from a foreign nation.
- Glenn plays more of Ben, who gets angrier, and says that Tucker's position is idiocy and stupidity. It's just non-stop anger sprinkled with some insults from Ben. (my comment: I'm curious if Ben may have burned a bridge with Tucker)
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:49 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
If I'm being honest, this makes me question who Ben feels a primary allegiance toward: Israel or the US.
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:51 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
If I'm being honest, this makes me question who Ben feels a primary allegiance toward: Israel or the US.
No need to question it: The answer is Israel.
Many Americans’ allegiance to the US is waning.
I can’t fault Shapiro.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:56 pm to POTUS2024
Ben's alliance is clearly to Israel. Always has been.
Totally fine, but the people who think like him are the ones who should fund the wars and go there to fight and not drag the rest of us into it.
Totally fine, but the people who think like him are the ones who should fund the wars and go there to fight and not drag the rest of us into it.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:58 pm to POTUS2024
If Shapiro allows his justified sadness and rage to sound entitled and strident as if America is duty- bound to die for Israel , and if that attitude becomes prevalent, he will find that Israel loses much of the populist American Right. Proceed humbly, Ben.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:59 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
I have never seen Ben Shapiro this angry. If I'm being honest, this makes me question who Ben feels a primary allegiance toward: Israel or the US.
He’s an Orthodox Jew. His people were attacked.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:05 pm to POTUS2024
What an angry little elf.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:05 pm to POTUS2024
That angry hobbit annoys me. Shapiro being an Israel-Firster doesn't bother me nearly as much as some others.
I wonder how much time Shapiro has spent on the 'intelligence failure' question. There are several former IDF people he could talk to.
I wonder how much time Shapiro has spent on the 'intelligence failure' question. There are several former IDF people he could talk to.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:06 pm to POTUS2024
Ben is a nerd who can go fight if he’d like. To suggest others die for his beliefs is laughable. I’ll say this about anyone who suggests war but yet hasn’t served or been in war themselves. Israel is more than competent to fight this by themselves, especially with the lethal and non lethal aid we already provide them.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:26 pm to POTUS2024
quote:He was doing that earlier in the week as well.
Ben begins frothing at the mouth
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:29 pm to POTUS2024
He's an orthodox Jew who just watched some of the most heinous acts you can imagine perpetrated against Jewish people. Maybe cut him a little bit of slack. He gets mad all the time about American politics.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:31 pm to POTUS2024
The problem I have with what Tucker is saying is, if these Americans were killed in Dubai, instead of Israel, we'd be the one's doing the bombing. I don't agree that we need to attack Iran unless we have evidence that they funded the attacks.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:33 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
- Tucker's basic argument is that Hamas' actions are reprehensible and Israel has a right to respond. However, that does not mean this becomes an American war and that it doesn't mean that an attack on Israel is an attack on the US.
Tucker & i agree.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:36 pm to POTUS2024
Shapiro needs Tucker more than Tucker needs DW. Ben better shut his trap if he knows what's good for his platform
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:36 pm to POTUS2024
He was pretty angry when that tranny grabbed him by the shirt and threatened to send him home in an ambulance for calling him sir
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:38 pm to POTUS2024
Shapiro is the biggest grifter ever
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:42 pm to POTUS2024
I mean people are going around saying kill the Jews and he’s Jewish.
How many days is he allowed to be angry?
And btw, most of all the other shite he’s talked about and talks about, is America. It’s what his entire platform that got him to this point is.
I’m not wanting to go to Temple with the guy. But I’m not getting my panties in a wad because a Jew is pissed off at terrorists.
How many days is he allowed to be angry?
And btw, most of all the other shite he’s talked about and talks about, is America. It’s what his entire platform that got him to this point is.
I’m not wanting to go to Temple with the guy. But I’m not getting my panties in a wad because a Jew is pissed off at terrorists.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:48 pm to POTUS2024
Ben is a over hyped rhino . Never was a fan of his . He is very cocky and hates people like Tucker and Trump .
Posted on 10/13/23 at 4:51 pm to POTUS2024
Shapiro being angry and emotional is understandable to a point.
We can all look at our post on 9-11.
But Tucker said nothing wrong or that I disagree with.
Ben is picking the wrong fight here.
We can all look at our post on 9-11.
But Tucker said nothing wrong or that I disagree with.
Ben is picking the wrong fight here.
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