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re: Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:45 pm to
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It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...

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It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...



correct

but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5107 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:53 pm to
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why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it


They don't hate Jews for the fact they're Jewish. They hate Zionists (people who want to establish Jewish state in their holy land, meaning Israel). Since all those people are Jewish, that translates very naturally to hating Jews.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36902 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I just don't get it

You're not going to "get it" unless you desire to "get it." That ain't gonna happen on Tigerdroppings.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20455 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 pm to
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quote:

It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...



correct

but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it
Several things, in context.

1) to the ultra-devout, there's a mandate to cleanse and purify the world. This means removing non-believers.
They will give a pagan the option of converting, but the Jews (and Christians) have had their chance. They consider the Old Testament correct, and the teachings of Jesus as a prophet. But those faiths do not consider Mohammed to be The Prophet, so... they've already rejected what, in the eyes of Islam, is the continued flow of the faith. In other words, they have turned away from the chosen path, and must be purged.

2) Islam focuses on holy territory. Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2, and stuck right in the middle of the Holy Land. To them, that's an abomination not to be tolerated.

3) to the more secular, that second point still rings true- especially to those people displaced when Israel was created. They can be completely atheist, and still harbor hatred to those they consider usurpers of their homeland.
It just gets easier to commit atrocities when your religion encourages, DEMANDS that you remove the Jews from that land.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26666 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:46 am to
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but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it


Pretty simple really.

The Jews are God's chosen people according to the Torah/Old Testament.

If God and allah are one and the same, then why would He all of a sudden decide that they need to be eliminated? The answer of course is that they are not one and the same.

The next question then is who would want to destroy God's people? Who is the enemy of God? Who takes delight in misery, death and destruction? Well, Satan of course.

The muslim holy book says to convert people to Islam by force if necessary. That does not comport with anything in the Torah or Bible. Jesus said, "Love your enemies." There is no such sentiment in the Koran.

Islam is the "answer" to Judaism and Christianity, not a continuation of them.
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