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re: Our 2nd amendment right is the biggest reason this doesn't happen in the US.

Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7158 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:53 pm to
2nd Amendment sure hasn't stopped the absolute invasion at the southern border.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73260 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:53 pm to
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That’s the reality internet tough guys would face.


K. And what about people who aren't internet tough guys?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7418 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:53 pm to
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You are delusional. If China or Russia ever defeated our military (they can’t) it would be child’s play to subdue the population. They would order all guns turned in under penalty of death. That would get most of them. Then they would go door to door searching.

They would torture anyone who voted Republican. First they would start with one of your children. They would torture that child to death unless you turned over your guns. If you had no guns the child would be killed and then they would assume you didn’t have any. That would get almost all of the remaining guns.

Then they would institute reprisals. Whenever an act of rebellion took place they would execute a hundred people at random. In six months the land would be at peace. That’s the reality internet tough guys would face.


Your takes are usually pretty solid but I think you are off a bit here. Hell switch an opposing force to a facist US government and I think they would still meet a pretty ferociuos resistance especially in certain parts of the county.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31363 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:54 pm to
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If 50 armed militants parachuted into your neighborhood or rolled onto your street in Toyota pickups unexpectedly at 6:30 am on a weekend morning, what is it exactly that you think would happen? Dozens of people would be dead before anyone else even knew what was happening.




Definitely not during hunting season.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26918 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:55 pm to
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They actually have some pretty strict licensing regimes that keep a good part of the populous from buying firearms. And if you fail to renew your license/application they come pick your firearm up

That has nothing to do with the arms that service-aged individuals have in these border settlements.

But regardless, my point is that it doesn’t matter how many guns you have in your house. If Hamas quite literally parachutes in to your street with several dozen armed and well equipped fighters, you don’t have a chance. You and your neighbors will kill plenty of them, sure.

But you’re going to lose in that moment. No random street in America is ready for that at dawn on a weekend holiday.

Just a silly thing to argue, IMO.
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2401 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:56 pm to
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Israel is one of the most armed places on earth.



Even though is it legal for citzens to own a gun in Israel, providing they they don't have a criminal or medical record, only 1.5 % of the population has a license to own a gun.
On Sunday the National Security Director announced an emergency declaration that will "allow as many citizens as possible to arm themselves"
I bet the percentage of gun ownership will rise!
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:56 pm to
You’re a full fledged idiot
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26918 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:56 pm to
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Definitely not during hunting season.

You hunt at 630 am on your residential street?
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:57 pm to
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If you’re trying to make some point that Americans are more armed and prepared than Israelis in these settlements, you’re incredibly wrong.


Glad to be wrong. Based on videos I saw, they didn’t seem to be armed at all. Of course I understand the music festival people wouldn’t be armed, but I saw videos of a family cowering in a house, of terrorists calmly waking through streets. I didn’t see any with bullets flying both directions.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1403 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:57 pm to
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I didn't say the guns would protect us from biological or nuclear weapons. I said they would protect us from terrorists coming to our homes and murdering us while we huddle in a closet.


You said THIS doesn't happen. I thought you were referring to the Hamas missile attacks but you mean the extremists invading peoples homes?

Cause the US had 1.65 million home invasions last year. I own a gun and someone came in my house last year and i did not hesitate to show him.

US is very equipped to defend a ground invasion - but how good are we defending against terrorist using human shields? Attacking kids at at festival? Biological attacks. Terrorists who are essentially on suicide missions. You want to own a gun - fine, i have guns - but think about all the ways a country could attack us. We just has a mild biological attack, what if it was SARS or Smallpox?

I'm not debating you - I'm expanding the discussion. THIS is war. How equipped is the US to handle a domestic war. That includes modern weapons - dirty bombs, disease, propaganda, cyber, EMPs? That is the way they are going to get us. Not a slow moving transport in the pacific.


Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57502 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:57 pm to
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You are delusional. If China or Russia ever defeated our military (they can’t) it would be child’s play to subdue the population.
do you even history?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69122 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:58 pm to
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agree, it is hard for a ground army to invade - just like Russia is having a hard time invading Ukraine, but modern warfare is knowing computers, satellite guidance systems, biological defense.


So if they take all that down, you don’t want a gun while everyone else does?

What about during a zombie apocalypse? At some point it’s the men with guns you are going to be more worried about.

All of your scenarios are better with a gun. Even fighting over the last roll of tp.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73260 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:58 pm to
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You hunt at 630 am on your residential street?


If people start dropping from the sky looking to FAFO, yeah, I think I would.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26918 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Based on videos I saw, they didn’t seem to be armed at all

Oh, you mean the Hamas videos?

Why would they show you armed resistance?

I swear some of you are incapable of thinking.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57502 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 12:59 pm to
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your peashooters
i thought you libs consider them "assault weapons"? now they are peashooters? which one is it? im so confused.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26918 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:00 pm to
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If people start dropping from the sky looking to FAFO, yeah, I think I would.

No way you’re on board with the “yee haw we’d just shoot em dead” narrative.

Not at this scale. This would have resulted in more deaths had it happened in the US than it did in Israel.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3586 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Oh, you mean the Hamas videos? Why would they show you armed resistance? I swear some of you are incapable of thinking.


You have some other videos you can share?

I’m talking about what came across Twitter.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31363 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:01 pm to
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You hunt at 630 am on your residential street?


Plenty of people with guns would be ready.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73260 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:02 pm to
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No way you’re on board with the “yee haw we’d just shoot em dead” narrative.


I'm only speaking for myself.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31363 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:02 pm to
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This would have resulted in more deaths had it happened in the US than it did in Israel.


Depends where they targeted.
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