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re: Don't hire Chavis
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:31 pm to acmilanlsu
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:31 pm to acmilanlsu
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Why don't you post the 4 years before that too. Pretty sure he was top 15 the 4 years before. Phat Phil screwed him over in recruiting. All Phat Phil wanted to do was recruit donut shops to knoxville.
Phat Phil made him fall to 70th in overall Defense(Worse than LSU's D this year) despite bringing in top 20 classes in nearly every year. Sure.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:33 pm to LSUfan4444
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every UT fan i know has wanted him fired for at least 2 years now
Also anyone who brings up the LSU has more talent argument needs to be punched in the vag.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:34 pm to The312
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He has a decade of experience as a coordinator in the SEC.
I would consider this a positive if he had the best defense in the conference year-in year-out. Seems like opposing coaches would already have a set playbook to beat him. I don't claim to follow Tennessee football closely enough to critique the guy, but their defense never really struck me as unpredictable and well disguised.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:35 pm to Luke4LSU
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Can you summarize Chavis's style? I don't know much about him.
He will think outside the box (sometimes to his detriment - SECCG 2001). He is excellent at developing LBs and Safeties (pretty good at DL as well). His schemes are typically more based on fundamentals than gimmics (initial statement still applies). The spread is a bit of an issue as it is the modern offense, but, in the end, fundamentals are the best way to defend it. His pass defense is largely contingent on the talent level. When he doesn't have as much talent as he'd like, he does play a bit soft (we all hate that idea).
His biggest talent is his ability to diagnose what the opponent does. His defense SCHEMES are usually very solid. Blitzing isn't overdone and typically well thought out (and HIDDEN).
These are just very general observations. He is not a riverboat gambler, but more of a steady hand. While his defenses aren't typically stiffling (with moderate talent), they are dependable and consistent. With experience and a few stars, his schemes are very effective.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:36 pm to LSUtigahs28
this guy has been tenn's DC since 96 and in that time he has never had a D rank in the top 5 in both total D and scoring D, hell he's never had any single D rank higher than 7 in scoring. 2 of pelini's 3 D's at LSU were top 5 in both categories. if LSU fans didn't like pelini everyone is going to hate this guy
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:36 pm to LSUtigahs28
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Also anyone who brings up the LSU has more talent argument needs to be punched in the vag.
Well..except if it's to compare Miles' success with other coaches...
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:37 pm to CharlesLSU
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CharlesLSU
Good observations and if we can get a really good Defensive coordinator with energy to coach up the D line, I think LSU would really benefit from this.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:39 pm to Hiyoka
So Hiyoka...make a suggestion for the DC and convince Miles and Co, since they are "active posters", as to why he should be hired.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:40 pm to Linkovich
I would kill to get Orgeron in for DL coach. This defense needs some.....uh, motivation. And, his recruiting skills are outstanding.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:43 pm to CharlesLSU
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I would kill to get Orgeron in for DL coach.
I know the rumor is going around but I just can't believe this would happen. With the past rumors and the fact that he is coaching in the NFL, I just can't see it. I would love it though. Could you imagine what he would have done to Johnson or Alem at the Arkansas game.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:45 pm to Linkovich
Talking about Orgeron, I've been wondering what makes him so good at recruiting.
I mean do most HS kids get excited talking to an old cajun guy who can barely speak English?
I mean do most HS kids get excited talking to an old cajun guy who can barely speak English?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:48 pm to CharlesLSU
I talked to a former Vol DB this weekend. Said that a hallmark of a Chavis defense if FAST linebackers. He often took "tweeners" (ie, big, fast safeties) and converted them to linebackers.
He was very complimentary of Chavis...said that we would be getting the real deal if we got him.
He was very complimentary of Chavis...said that we would be getting the real deal if we got him.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:50 pm to Chicken
For the last time Chicken, Chad Jones is not going to be a linebacker.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:51 pm to LSUfan4444
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we need a guy who can "teach" and use the talents he has....that being said i don't think it is chavis
agreed.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:52 pm to Chicken
Yes Chavis loves the fast linebackers. Kevin Burnett, Jarod Mayo come to mind. I could see moving Harry Coleman to one of the outside backer spots. He can't cover WR but maybe he can hit like the dickens.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:54 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:Al Wilson is an example of a safety converted to LB...I think that worked out well for him.
Kevin Burnett, Jarod Mayo come to mind.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:54 pm to CharlesLSU
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Chavis with the right assistants would be solid
my god now our assistants need good assistants to be solid
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:57 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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think pelini but not as good
Thanks for the in-depth analysis
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:58 pm to Chicken
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Al Wilson is an example of a safety converted to LB...I think that worked out well for him.
Wasn't Urlacher a converted safety?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 3:01 pm to Chicken
I've said it before, and I'll say it again......
Chavis does not recruit.
The 2001 UT defense had Albert Haynesworth, and John Henderson.
They lost to the QB-Draw of Freshman Matt Mauck and the LSU Tigers.
No thanks.
Chavis does not recruit.
The 2001 UT defense had Albert Haynesworth, and John Henderson.
They lost to the QB-Draw of Freshman Matt Mauck and the LSU Tigers.
No thanks.
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