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Everyone calling for Carmichael head
Posted on 10/2/23 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 10/2/23 at 11:29 pm
Y’all actually think he a bad OC or do we just have bad players ??lol Pete been here for 100 years I think he knows how to call plays . I think someone on this rant should call plays
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 11:38 pm to Masonburden67
He's a shite OC.
He sat and watched Payton call his plays and now he's trying to copy what Payton did.
Winston, Dalton, Carr, Hill, there's no excuse that one of the 4 could not be a serviceable qb with the weapons around them.
Play calling is arse and so is Carmichael
He sat and watched Payton call his plays and now he's trying to copy what Payton did.
Winston, Dalton, Carr, Hill, there's no excuse that one of the 4 could not be a serviceable qb with the weapons around them.
Play calling is arse and so is Carmichael
Posted on 10/2/23 at 11:42 pm to Masonburden67
If Carmichael was such a genius OC why did he never get one serious head coaching interview his entire tenure under Payton?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:23 am to Masonburden67
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Y’all actually think he a bad OC or do we just have bad players ??lol Pete been here for 100 years I think he knows how to call plays . I think someone on this rant should call plays
Listen, Pete...nothing personal dude! You just suck as an play-caller! Maybe you should get Gail Benson to let you run the concession stands.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:31 am to Masonburden67
He is no different than Allen.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:34 am to Masonburden67
You might be retarded
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:52 am to Masonburden67
Carmichael’s head
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:59 am to Masonburden67
Greatest coach on Earth cant turn Carr into a winner.
He sucks.
When the QB sucks, nothing else matters.
Prepare your paper bags.
He sucks.
When the QB sucks, nothing else matters.
Prepare your paper bags.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:00 am to Masonburden67
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Pete been here for 100 years I think he knows how to call plays .
He's been here 100 years and has rarely had to call plays.
There is thinking fast and thinking slow. PC seems to be a thinking slow guy. Great at big picture strategy like breaking down opponents, creating the gameplan, installing certain plays, etc.
He's just not a "thinking fast" guy who can process information that quickly on gameday when playcalling. That's why our offense looks so much better and complex early (when we're running scripted plays) than later (when PC has to set things up on the fly in real time at 100 mph).
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Agree, but also, i wouldnt forget that the guy thats his boss wants a certain conservative style offense to play complimentary to his defense. I think that plays a part. Still want all of them gone, but yeah, if they struggle this week, Pete needs to give up playcalling
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:31 am to Masonburden67
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I think he knows how to call plays
calling plays is about 10% of what a coordinator needs to do to be good.
The play sheet itself is a huge part of it.
I don't think we are fooling too many defenses.
I think the goal of our offense seems to be to get to 3rd and short.
Carmichael isn't capable of solving those problems.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:38 am to Masonburden67
All I know is he looks lost on game days and we are last in points scored.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:42 am to Masonburden67
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Y’all actually think he a bad OC or do we just have bad players ??lol Pete been here for 100 years I think he knows how to call plays . I think someone on this rant should call plays
You are a fricking idiot.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:49 am to Masonburden67
Players are significantly better (on paper) than last season… results have been similar… offense has arguably regressed
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:52 am to josh336
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but yeah, if they struggle this week, Pete needs to give up playcalling
The problem is that since we've continued to just keep the Payton era coaching train going, and since SP called plays exclusively, we have NOBODY who has playcalling experience and I don't think anyone who has any real experience outside of this system (to bring in new ideas).
It sucks, but this is probably something that is an offseason issue and not an inseason issue.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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He's been here 100 years and has rarely had to call plays.
There is thinking fast and thinking slow. PC seems to be a thinking slow guy. Great at big picture strategy like breaking down opponents, creating the gameplan, installing certain plays, etc.
He's just not a "thinking fast" guy who can process information that quickly on gameday when playcalling. That's why our offense looks so much better and complex early (when we're running scripted plays) than later (when PC has to set things up on the fly in real time at 100 mph).
Just like a guy who can throw the ball really well doesn't always make a great QB, a guy who can design great plays or even script a great game plan doesn't always make a great play caller when the game goes off script, which it almost invariably does, often after the first series or two.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:57 am to mdomingue
Pete does not have the feel to be a good play-caller in this league. Payton would use his script to set up plays and learn the defense tendencies. When a D played against Payton, they were always on their heels. Pete gives you none of that. If anything, his play calls are predictable and he does not seem to adjust to what the D is doing.
He may be great at setting up a game plan, but he is not a good gameday playcaller.
He may be great at setting up a game plan, but he is not a good gameday playcaller.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:24 am to Masonburden67
I remember watching a video of Brees, Payton and Carmichael game planning in a conference room. Carmichael didn't say one word about what plays they were going to install. He sucks as an OC.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:25 am to Masonburden67
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Y’all actually think he a bad OC
Yes
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or do we just have bad players ?
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lol Pete been here for 100 years I think he knows how to call plays . I think someone on this rant should call plays
How's the offense looked with him "calling plays" without Payton?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:37 am to saints5021
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He may be great at setting up a game plan, but he is not a good gameday playcaller.
Exactly.
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