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Government set to shutdown after House’s stopgap spending bill goes down in flames

Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:40 pm
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A bill backed by House Republican leadership that would have held off a partial government shutdown for another month tanked on the chamber floor Friday afternoon, all but locking in the first suspension of some federal operations since January 2019.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) could only afford to lose four Republican votes and still pass the measure along party lines.

He lost 21 GOP votes as the bill went down, 232-198.

Even if the bill had made it through the House, its cuts of nearly 30% in discretionary spending to non-defense and non-veteran agencies meant it would not have been picked up by the Democrat-controlled Senate — while the White House issued a statement pledging to veto the measure on the slim chance it made it to President Biden’s desk.


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With the Senate not expected to be able to pass its own stopgap bill until Saturday, hours before the 11:59 p.m. deadline, the House result practically ensures the partial shutdown that will lead to the furlough of some federal workers and force the military to operate without pay.


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McCarthy, 58, has also vowed not to take up the Senate spending bill upon its expected passage in the face of a vocal minority of Republican members who won’t support any more temporary spending.

The Senate resolution would keep the federal government’s lights on through Nov. 17.

House Republicans are opposed to the bill over its $6 billion in aid to Ukraine, as well as the lack of funding for US border security.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94867 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:40 pm to
#TeamShutdown
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20877 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:42 pm to
They shut our lives down for weeks.

frick em.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51269 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3566 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:44 pm to
They’re just gonna shutdown the ducking memorials and national parks again. The gravy will keep flowing to the criminals and their families.

frick em is right
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
47562 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:45 pm to
I'm sure all the people in Congress will be crying while they sit at home on their old, fat asses and still receive paychecks.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7110 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:45 pm to
frick... I have a trip next weekend that centers around national parks. The one good thing the government does.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58554 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 2:57 pm to
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Even if the bill had made it through the House, its cuts of nearly 30% in discretionary spending to non-defense and non-veteran agencies


And that's not even close to being enough. Last year's total spending would have had to be cut by ~30% just to balance with revenues. This year will likely be a larger amount.

Cutting 30% discretionary spending in FY2022 was only $1.7T (of $6T+ total spending, thus "only"). Non-defense was around $910B of that. So if the numbers remain roughly close between last year's spending and this year's, that would have been ~$300B from a fricking $5T-$6T budget with over $1.5T in deficit spending already built in.

Don't worry everyone, instead of loading bullets in all of the chambers of the pistol, we're loading only 80% of them. Happy Russian Roulette-ing! :)
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21778 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:01 pm to
Federal employees not being paid....does this include Congress, its 1000's of employees? biden's staffers? Who will help him up & down stairs around the WH?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54315 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:03 pm to
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Federal employees not being paid....does this include Congress, its 1000's of employees? biden's staffers? Who will help him up & down stairs around the WH?


Not entirely true. I know for a fact that some federal employees will be paid in back pay - in full - when things reopen.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
26600 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:07 pm to
Next Oct we need to shut it down thru election day. Might keep 3 letters from helping the dims
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14182 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:11 pm to
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House Republicans are opposed to the bill over its $6 billion in aid to Ukraine, as well as the lack of funding for US border security



Reminder to all you fools still thinkinng the GOP has the moral highground of “fiscal conservatism” … GOP is not opposed with trillion dollar deficits. They’re worried about 6bil for ukraine instead of 6bil for a wall.

There is no fix to the spending in sight. They want to throw a tantrum about less than 1% of our annual spending.


Pathetic, all of them
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128093 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:23 pm to
Hey, at least Ukrainians are still getting paid!
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41519 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:57 pm to
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opposed to the bill over its $6 billion in aid to Ukraine, as well as the lack of funding for US border security.


Feels like there’s an easy solution here.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:59 pm to
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I know for a fact that some federal employees will be paid in back pay - in full - when things reopen.


Which is why all the people rooting for the shutdown are simpletons

Nothing is gained from this
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8912 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:02 pm to
Mad that it was only 21!
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20877 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Which is why all the people rooting for the shutdown are simpletons

Nothing is gained from this


Then why all the pearl clutching and hand wringing?

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22386 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Not entirely true. I know for a fact that some federal employees will be paid in back pay - in full - when things reopen

Isn't this true for all fed employees?
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17352 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:09 pm to
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Congress, its 1000's of employees? biden's staffers? Who will help him up & down stairs around the WH?


Staffers don’t receive pay. Really hurts the young aids that work in the offices and barely make anything as it is. They do get back pay.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2601 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:50 pm to
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Not entirely true. I know for a fact that some federal employees will be paid in back pay - in full - when things reopen.


It's a true paid vacation for most fed employees, and they whine about it.
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