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re: In case you missed it (like I did), archaeologists discovered ancient city of Sodom
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:53 am to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:53 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:53 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:53 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:54 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:54 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:56 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:56 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:57 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:59 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Do you understand now why the sons-in-law no longer trusted Lot?
Wow!
Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
If you can speculate as to the intentions of Lot's daughters and sons-in-law then why can't I specifically agree (based on clear Biblical revelation) that God destroyed S&G because the cities were full of rot (as in every type of sexual perversion)?
Furthermore, why can't I make the connection that how God dealt with profoundly morally bankrupt Sodomites is what awaits Americans if they allow this LGBT agenda to poison the minds and bodies of her citizens, especially her young. Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin, our embracing His mercy and forgiveness.
Do you agree that the God of Abraham is all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and compassionate, but also JUST? Can we agree that God doesn't like it when you create a culture where children (i.e. not fully formed in body and mind) are allowed to slice & dice their bodies because they're confused about their gender? Confusion that came about because a culture pushed this ridiculous notion that men can be women, and women can be men. A notion that has its roots in the militant feminist movement of the sixties. A feminist movement that destroyed the traditional family model that has existed from the time God handed Adam and Eve to each other.
Downvote away heathens!
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:33 am to Zarkinletch416
I've heard of double posts but holy frick.... How did you manage ten or so?
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:42 am to Shamoan
quote:
If you’ve accepted the possibility of 1:1, everything else is possible.
What pulled Pharaoh's chariots that chased after the Hebrews if the 5th plague killed all the livestock?
Those weird horse fetish groups in New Orleans?
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:48 am to Zarkinletch416
quote:
then it only confirms the account given in Genesis 18.
So it's impossible that a small settlement could be destroyed by a meteor outside of divine intervention?
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:49 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
God did it.
All of Christian apologetics summed up in three words.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:55 am to Shamoan
didnt they discover Sodom in the start of the Omen.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:58 am to Azkiger
quote:
How did you manage ten or so?
I dunno. I was under the impression each time you edited a post, and saved it, TD just overlayed the edit over your original post. Apparently, that is not the case.
Hummm? An attempt to water down my original edited post maybe?
Anyway got our best man on it.
*[update]* I see a downvote. Do I hear a demon laughing?
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:02 am to Azkiger
quote:
All of Christian apologetics summed up in three words.
Yep, A, that's the bottom line. Einstein proved that Time is Relative. From God's POV, everything that can happen, already has. God just respects and signs off on the process. Albeit, there will be a clash of as to whether, when and/or why God may intervene according to Providential Will and affect the occurrence of linear time-based actions.
IMO, even God is limited by "The Word"/Truth, as providential action biased to serve Its own ends when an uncoerced and educated choice is on the table (Satan's Value and challenge, or God) will bind even God in many instances. It's our baby and we have to rock it.
"Where there is no vision, my people die". The absence of Love will result in "wailing and gnashing of teeth", and the Law of Karma (Spiritual Law for a Spiritual Universe) will apply. JMO. To each their own.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:44 am to Zarkinletch416
quote:
Do I hear a demon laughing?
Seek help immediately.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:03 am to glassart
There are two radical schools of thought when it comes to the Bible. Some argue that the entire thing is a complete work of fiction, and some argue that it is 100% accurate and should be taken literally at all times. Now, the truth is likely in the middle somewhere, but the reason you have folks arguing that none of it is true is because of politics.
Biblical accounts have been used to justify the creation of the political nation of Israel. This land was carved out of former Ottoman territory that had been occupied by the Palestinian population, most of whom were displaced by gentrification before the partition or by the Civil War that followed. Thus, you have a sizable population of people who have a vested interest in denying the basis for the existence of the nation of Israel and removing it so that they may retake possession of the territory it currently occupies. The free Palestine movement is very big within Muslim, atheist, and general liberal/progressive academic circles.
As such, they deny any and everything that occurs in the bible, claiming that not only are the people fictional, but that the place names and geography are made up as well despite referencing many locations that still exist today by the same names.
Thus, any discovery that verifies a biblical location, or more so, verifies a biblical account of a specific event not previously known to have been recorded elsewhere, is a huge blow to the political agenda of the free Palestine movement and is thus ridiculed, ignored, or discredited by a large chunk of “mainstream” archaeologists.
The Sodom discovery is interesting because those cities were found where they should be, were at the age they should be, and were discovered with pottery shards consistent with either a meteor impact or a nuclear explosion. This seems to verify that whomever wrote Genesis had a clear chain of custody of a first-hand account of what happened there, and recorded a historical event with a relatively high degree of accuracy.
That just means that whether the destruction was caused by the active hand of an angry God verses the statistical randomness of nature is the only real question, which is one unrelated to any political debate. In my opinion, such debates are meaningless because God would have invented the laws of nature, and thus scientifically proving that a city said to have been destroyed “by fire and brimstone” was actually destroyed by a meteor impact is kinda saying the same thing. I see God as acting through nature, not in opposition of it, being the answer to why, while science the answer to how.
However, both extremes of the religious/political debate would never accept any such nuance, thus it will be hated on everyone. In my best informed opinion, portions of the Bible are attempting to be a historical text. If they say ___ was a King of ____ at the time of ____ in the land of ____, best believe that shite is real and you can find that place by following the context clues in the story.
Biblical accounts have been used to justify the creation of the political nation of Israel. This land was carved out of former Ottoman territory that had been occupied by the Palestinian population, most of whom were displaced by gentrification before the partition or by the Civil War that followed. Thus, you have a sizable population of people who have a vested interest in denying the basis for the existence of the nation of Israel and removing it so that they may retake possession of the territory it currently occupies. The free Palestine movement is very big within Muslim, atheist, and general liberal/progressive academic circles.
As such, they deny any and everything that occurs in the bible, claiming that not only are the people fictional, but that the place names and geography are made up as well despite referencing many locations that still exist today by the same names.
Thus, any discovery that verifies a biblical location, or more so, verifies a biblical account of a specific event not previously known to have been recorded elsewhere, is a huge blow to the political agenda of the free Palestine movement and is thus ridiculed, ignored, or discredited by a large chunk of “mainstream” archaeologists.
The Sodom discovery is interesting because those cities were found where they should be, were at the age they should be, and were discovered with pottery shards consistent with either a meteor impact or a nuclear explosion. This seems to verify that whomever wrote Genesis had a clear chain of custody of a first-hand account of what happened there, and recorded a historical event with a relatively high degree of accuracy.
That just means that whether the destruction was caused by the active hand of an angry God verses the statistical randomness of nature is the only real question, which is one unrelated to any political debate. In my opinion, such debates are meaningless because God would have invented the laws of nature, and thus scientifically proving that a city said to have been destroyed “by fire and brimstone” was actually destroyed by a meteor impact is kinda saying the same thing. I see God as acting through nature, not in opposition of it, being the answer to why, while science the answer to how.
However, both extremes of the religious/political debate would never accept any such nuance, thus it will be hated on everyone. In my best informed opinion, portions of the Bible are attempting to be a historical text. If they say ___ was a King of ____ at the time of ____ in the land of ____, best believe that shite is real and you can find that place by following the context clues in the story.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:20 am to Azkiger
quote:
Seek help immediately.
Seek Redemption immediately. Time is getting short.
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 11:21 am
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