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“Jumping Over s Snake” One Week Before a Hunt

Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:40 pm
When I was growing up, if one managed to avoid a bad event, we called it “jumping over a snake.” Nowadays, various professions have fancier phrases like “sentinel event” or “near miss,” but it’s still the same thing. I had a similar experience last weekend. It was only 7 days before my last prairie dog hunt of the year and I was doing some last minute sighting in. Things had gone well w/ the 22 LR (Tikka T1x rifle w/ Spectre 2 suppressor)) and my handguns: 20 VarTarg (Howa Mini-action w/ McGowen barrel) and Nosler Custom Handgun in 22 Nosler. The only gun left to shoot was my Remington XP-100 handgun in 223 Rem Ackiley Improved. Imagine my surprise when my first fire forming load failed to fire. In addition, there wasn’t even a mark on the primer. The gun had never misfired. After 4 more rounds, the primers were still untouched. After doing a lot of research I suspected a broken firing pin or firing pin spring.

I’d never broken down the XP bolt before so I consulted a number of YouTube videos the next morning. I noticed the bolt lift was very stiff. The videos were pretty accurate although I had to use a penny to keep the bolt open instead of the usual nickel. After taking the bolt apart, it looked like there was a fleck of brass inside the body of the bolt near the firing pin hole. I couldn’t remove it w/ a Q tip, but it washed out after flushing it w/ copious amounts of carbureter cleaner. The firing pin assembly was dirty, but otherwise ok. After reassembling the bolt, I dropped the hammer on four primed pieces of brass. Happily, all four ignited.

I shot the 223 later that day and was very pleased. I shot 3 groups, each w/ 3 shots. The first group was shot without the suppressor, the second group w/ the suppressor and the third group without the suppressor. I made a small horizontal adjustment on the scope for the 3rd group, but you can see the suppressor otherwise had no significant effect on the point of impact. Next I shot 3 shot groups w/ 3 different 50 grain bullets (Speer soft point, Speer TNT and Hornady SX) and 2 different powders (Shooter’s World AR Plus and Accurate 2200). I really like how this gun shoots different bullets of the same weight to the same point of impact.

So everything turned out ok. All my guns are working and shooting accurately. Now I’m hoping the prairie dogs will cooperate on the hunt.

Small piece of brass from inside the bolt

Suppressor comparison

Bullet comparison
Posted by Wavefan
St. Tammany
Member since Mar 2005
237 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:01 pm to
And here I am reading this disappointed that there is no snake
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7144 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:32 am to
Ditto.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22708 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:00 am to
That's a bunch of drama to say "I cleaned my gun and it shoots better"
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:34 am to
To me, that's a pretty big piece of brass to be inside the bolt.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
350000 posts
Member since Sep 2010
15131 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:46 pm to
You still can't shoot worth a shite with all them fancy rifles. You are like the 30 handicap guy at the course and have all new irons and drivers and wedges.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9780 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:56 pm to
I don't prairie dog hunt and dang sure don't have the nice equipment you have so excuse my ignorance here but...in the second pic, is there a specific reason you're not hitting the orange targets on the paper? Explain your work sir.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4072 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:53 pm to
I didn’t know a suppressor affects the accuracy.
Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
48 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:21 am to
Where did the brass come from? Possibly from the cartridge? I'd keep an eye on the spent casings to look for something fishy. Possibly pressure issue or bad primer or seating.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:04 am to
quote:

I don't prairie dog hunt and dang sure don't have the nice equipment you have so excuse my ignorance here but...in the second pic, is there a specific reason you're not hitting the orange targets on the paper? Explain your work sir.

Sure. I want my pd hunting guns to be dead on w/ windage, but not elevation. After shooting the last group, I made one final windage change, but didn't shoot another group. Depending on muzzle velocity, my pd hunting guns are sighted in 3/4"-1.5" high at 100 yards. That way they'll be dead on at 200 yards. With that size target, the bullet should hit the top edge.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:06 am to
quote:

I didn’t know a suppressor affects the accuracy.

If the threading is done right, it shouldn't. OTOH, sometimes there can be differences in the point of impact when the suppressor is attached and when it's not attached. This gun doesn't show significant movement of the POI.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:09 am to
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Where did the brass come from? Possibly from the cartridge?
I don't know. That's a mystery. While working up a fire forming load w/ a new lot of powder, I did have a round w/ higher that expected chamber pressures, resulting in a case head separation. Maybe it cam from that? I don't recall seeing any primers w/ missing brass.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:27 am to
quote:

You still can't shoot worth a shite with all them fancy rifles. You are like the 30 handicap guy at the course and have all new irons and drivers and wedges.

HaHa! You don't know me at all. I don't claim to be a marksman, I just like hunting, shooting and load development. And while my hunting guns may be unique to some, they are not fancy and they are not rifles.
The "fancy rifle" in question is actually a handgun.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6822 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:06 am to
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And here I am reading this disappointed that there is no snake

Sorry to disappoint y'all. I'll try and make it up to you. Prairie rattlers from prior hunts. Didn't see any snakes today.
Prairie rattler eating a dead prairie dog

After an encounter w/ a 9mm

My son in law killed a pd, but later noticed it was moving and moving oddly. He watched and it was being eaten by a pd. Then he shot the snake from 110 yards.
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