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Dudley vs Ranch Fairy

Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:03 am
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1843 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:03 am
Did anyone listen to this podcast? I generally like Dudley but I felt like he was flexing too hard on Troy, even if his message is right. I understand Dudley’s concern, people thinking they need 750 grain “adult arrows” to shoot pine goats. I think some of his content confuses new archers who absorb a lot of social media.

I have appreciated Dudley’s recent rants on telling people to shoot more instead of chasing meaningless gains by clocking arrows, trying to chase the optimal vane setup, etc. but I felt like he was just tongue lashing Troy for two hours in this one. Not a great look.

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Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25735 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:17 am to
I listened to it.

Dudley is normally a humble guy but he has been on a campaign lately to stop some of the bad info out on the internet that is sometimes hurting guys accuracy. He probably knew he had to come in that podcast with a little more aggressive tone because RF can sometimes be a dismissive prick but couldn’t to someone like Dudley
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25735 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:18 am to
RF has backed off a little on the massively heavy arrows for whitetail. Where he used to be in the 700 gr TAW range he now talks about being in the 500 grain range
Posted by duckaholic25
Member since Nov 2010
186 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:32 am to
I agree that he was flexing to hard on Troy, especially when he was harassing about his shooting. Thats just plain uncalled for. At the same time though I agree with what Dudley is preaching. The whole heavy arrow setup is just plain silly especially with whitetail.
Posted by RedBeardBaw
Member since Feb 2017
371 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:08 am to
Listening to it now so can't comment on the podcast just yet. However, I don't care for RF due to how hard he pushes the heavy arrow argument and anything other than his philosophy is wrong attitude. Maybe he's changed over the past couple years, but its been that long since I've watched much of anything with him in it. Especially for the guys just getting into bow hunting, his "my way is the only way" type attitude does not help anyone. I've been bowhunting for 20+ years and really believe that experience is the best teacher. Find what works for you and in your own scenarios.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
824 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:22 am to
I need to listen to this one, but I like them both. You just have to take RF with a grain of salt. He's not preaching his method for throwing arrows 60-100 yard like you see on social media. Like another poster said, he is advocating for an ethical known yardage on an animal that you can make a good shot on. The FOC and added weight is a contigency factor. So, IF the uncontrollables happen you have some margin for error, because with an average bow hunter unlike Dudley there is so much error.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1828 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:08 am to
Social media turns the most innocent topics into total pissing contests.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
537 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:55 am to
Did was a total arrogant a-hole to Troy. He even was fairly disrespectful of Iron Will Bill.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
987 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:59 pm to
Dudley isn’t wrong in what he’s saying, RF isn’t wrong in what he’s saying. The problem is, people debate RF and they get crushed because they don’t actually watch his videos. RF has never recommended 700 grain arrows for TAC or deer for that matter. Facts are facts and RF wouldn’t have taken off like he did unless it worked for people. I personally used his method and changed nothing about my bow or form. Plus, I don’t have to deal with the bow shop bros every year. I ended up with a 590gr arrow, 19ish% foc with a 31” draw and I’ve never had flight or the accuracy I do now. There’s nothing worse than taking your bow to the shop, having it tuned, go home cut the fletching off….3” tare. Happened to me several times. “Just shoot it, it’ll be fine” nah cuz.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
1065 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:26 am to
So wait a minute. There is a podcast where dudes blab about bow hunting, and people actually listen to it and are invested in what they are saying? That's hilarious
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