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re: First test results back on trt
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:31 pm to lsu777
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:31 pm to lsu777
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as you lose the bodyfat, and get below 20%, slowly start lowering that dose.
10-4
I finally got the deadlift platform at the new house.
It's been minute, but after a brief warm up, I cranked out some decent weight with zero straining.
It will be interesting to see what my recovery is like these days with higher test and an infinitely better diet/lifestyle than I had in my 20s.
Just slwoly rehabbing two destroyed shoulders at the moment. One is responding well. One is not... Which will likely mean surgery in the long term.
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:55 pm to X123F45
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I feel obligated to mention BF at 30% as per doctor.
My god. I’d be a lot more concerned about this than your testosterone. Drop weight and add muscle and I bet your testosterone would be fine.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:18 pm to X123F45
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And facial acne
This can be impacted by diet and not necessarily testosterone. There are plenty of people on gobs of androgens/anabolics that don't have a single pimple.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:37 pm to BigPerm30
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My god. I’d be a lot more concerned about this than your testosterone. Drop weight and add muscle and I bet your testosterone would be fine.
You try dropping weight at a 241 test level.
I lost 70lbs and then boom. No movement. No nothing. Even going down to 1500ish calories. Lower calories. Lower energy levels. Less food meant less movement.
Did efferdings vertical diet and lost another 16lbs over six months eating 4-5000 calories per day. Had much more energy and then cut calories down because eating 5k calories a day in clean food sucks. Stalled again. No energy.
I'm not 30% BF. I'm 30% on the BMI scale.
Given most males are perfectly buoyant at 20ish%, it would be basically impossible for me to sink at 30%
Couldn't find a good dexa scan locally so doing hydro weighing.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:40 pm to ronricks
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This can be impacted by diet and not necessarily testosterone. There are plenty of people on gobs of androgens/anabolics that don't have a single pimple.
I have eaten the same foods for the last 4 years with maybe a dozen deviations a year.
I can flip through the log and tell you exactly what cheat meals I've had in that time period just by watching the macros change
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:04 pm to X123F45
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I'm not 30% BF. I'm 30% on the BMI scale.
You had me confused there as well, didn't realize you meant your BMI. Thought you were talking about your bodyfat %.
I'm ~15% BF with a BMI of 27.5. Visible abs but my BMI says I'm overweight
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:32 pm to X123F45
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I'm 30% on the BMI scale.
Don’t use % on BMI. That’s confusing. 30 BMI is a lot different than 30% bf. If your athletic BMI is bogus. I’m 25 BMI but about 11% BF. It’s useful for the normal population but not us athletic guys on the HFB!
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:05 pm to X123F45
Something isn’t right.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:58 am to X123F45
Aromatase inhibitors cause more side effects and have worse effects on your heart compared to TRT itself. Having slightly elevated estrogen is fine and can benefit bone health as well as brain health.
The gym rats you see who clearly have ridiculously high estrogen (face bloating, chest and shoulder acne) are usually pinning over 1,000 mg of Test. At that dose range, Testosterone becomes a major water-retention drug. It’s a night and day difference compared to TRT amounts
Get off the Anastrozole and let your estrogen rebound. The decades old bro-science myth that TRT users need to use A.I.’s to control estrogen is fricking absurd and needs to die off. The fact that your GP was willing to prescribe it just shows how absolutely clueless physicians still are when it comes to understanding the pharmacology of AAS
The gym rats you see who clearly have ridiculously high estrogen (face bloating, chest and shoulder acne) are usually pinning over 1,000 mg of Test. At that dose range, Testosterone becomes a major water-retention drug. It’s a night and day difference compared to TRT amounts
Get off the Anastrozole and let your estrogen rebound. The decades old bro-science myth that TRT users need to use A.I.’s to control estrogen is fricking absurd and needs to die off. The fact that your GP was willing to prescribe it just shows how absolutely clueless physicians still are when it comes to understanding the pharmacology of AAS
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:16 am
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:29 am to JasonDBlaha
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Get off the Anastrozole and let your estrogen rebound. The decades old bro-science myth that TRT users need to use A.I.’s to control estrogen is fricking absurd and needs to die off. The fact that your GP was willing to prescribe it just shows how absolutely clueless physicians still are when it comes to understanding the pharmacology of AAS
99% still think this is the case.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:01 am to lsu777
Yup, mine ordered arimidex the same day he called my testosterone in.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:55 am to lsu777
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99% still think this is the case.
But to be clear, until body fat lowers some more, the .25 twice a week is likely needed? Or did I misread?
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:48 am to X123F45
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But to be clear, until body fat lowers some more, the .25 twice a week is likely needed? Or did I misread?
i mean in your case, already on it and having good results, go ahead and stay on. just be very mindful of sides
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:46 am to lsu777
Question. Currently injection 200mg twice a month and want to go to 100mg per week.
What is the best needle size and spot to self inject? I’ve been struggling..
What is the best needle size and spot to self inject? I’ve been struggling..
Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:05 pm to TigerBait1980
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Question. Currently injection 200mg twice a month and want to go to 100mg per week.
What is the best needle size and spot to self inject? I’ve been struggling..
1ml syringe
18 or 20g draw needle
27g or 30g to inject subq
you can find them at gpzservices
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:29 pm to lsu777
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anastrozole is really potent AI and can crush estrogen which has as many or more sides than Low T.
I started TRT July 13th, and found out three weeks later that my estrogen levels doubled. I've been taking Anastrozole for about two weeks now.
I just started noticing some slight joint aches while playing sports. Nothing crazy. I guess Anastozole has it's place in all of this, even if it's short term to lower E levels a bit. How long would you recommend staying on this?
I know I'm only 6 weeks in this, but I've been contemplating just getting off all of it. Messing with hormones is turning out to be quite an ordeal.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:50 pm to gerberbaby22
just get off the anastozole
its not some huge ordeal, stop freaking out over a number on paper.
its not some huge ordeal, stop freaking out over a number on paper.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:07 pm to lsu777
Certainly not freaking out over a number. It's the side effects of each thing I'm adding to my body to "combat" something else.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:24 pm to gerberbaby22
you added the Ai because of a number not any real symptoms
trt is not hard
1) test cyp
2) 2x shots per week. 75ish mg per shot for around 150mg/week.
3) subq with 27g or smaller
4) adjust dosage based on blood test after
5) take 9mg of boron to keep free test levels at top of range
thats all you need really
trt is not hard
1) test cyp
2) 2x shots per week. 75ish mg per shot for around 150mg/week.
3) subq with 27g or smaller
4) adjust dosage based on blood test after
5) take 9mg of boron to keep free test levels at top of range
thats all you need really
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:08 pm to lsu777
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This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 4:53 pm
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