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Levin Says Trump CAN Pardon Himself From State Charges
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:51 am
It makes sense. If the DOJ feels you cannot indict a sitting President, how are the 1000's of DA's and state prosecutors given such authority to "cripple" a Presidency?
This state charging BS is extremely funny and getting a lot of attention. So I must ask the question:
What are the Communists really hiding? The Dogs Tail Is Wagging, don't ya think?
Levin Said So
This state charging BS is extremely funny and getting a lot of attention. So I must ask the question:
What are the Communists really hiding? The Dogs Tail Is Wagging, don't ya think?
Levin Said So
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 3:03 pm
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:57 am to Timeoday
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What are the Communists really hiding
I don’t have enough ink. But their boldness is a good barometer.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:58 am to Timeoday
There's a lot of crazy wrapped up in the OP.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:02 am to Timeoday
quote:Dews it?
Levin Says Trump CAN Pardon Himself From State Charges. It makes since.
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The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States ....
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:03 am to Timeoday
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If the DOJ feels you cannot indict a sitting President, how are the 1000's of DA's and state prosecutors given such authority to "cripple" a Presidency
A sitting POTUS being outside of the reach of compulsory criminal procedure, etc., while in office is not really the same thing as being able to pardon himself.
It could very well be that, if Trump were to win the election before Fani Willis or Bragg get their cases to trial, NY and GA would have to wait until after his term ends to move forward.
That makes sense, that is to extend the DOJ's reasoning on not bringing indictments, etc., to the States.
I'm not buying a further extension of that argument to State pardon law, though. As Hank already posted further up, the Constitution gives POTUS the authority to pardon offenses against the United States. Not offenses against individual states, which are separate sovereign entities with their own criminal laws, or against criminal offenses generally.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:05 am to Timeoday
State cases can be moved to Federal Jurisdictions and then dealt with.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:06 am to Timeoday
I heard last night that they included some incidents that occurred after Trump was no longer president to cover all the bases?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:08 am to LSUwag
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State cases can be moved to Federal Jurisdictions and then dealt with.
Possible but difficult
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:09 am to Timeoday
I am not going to argue law with Mark Levin but I would like to hear the details on how the president can pardon someone for state crimes.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:09 am to Timeoday
Or and if he wins the presidency he can veto funding to GA and NY unless they expunge his record.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:10 am to Revelator
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I heard last night that they included some incidents that occurred after Trump was no longer president to cover all the bases?
Doesn't matter. He could rape a goat tomorrow. Levin is arguing that if Trump were to win the presidency before a conviction, he'd be able to pardon himself due to criminal proceedings affecting his ability to perform his duties.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:11 am to GumboPot
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Or and if he wins the presidency he can veto funding to GA and NY unless they expunge his record.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:12 am to geauxpurple
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I would like to hear the details on how the president can pardon someone for state crimes.
There isn't much detail in the article. But it reads as if Levin is arguing for an interpretation of the supremacy clause that is not supported by the plain text of Article 2.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:16 am to SlimTigerSlap
Guess anything is possible but since Mark isn’t a legal scholar and every legal scholar I have heard says this isn’t true, I have my doubts.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:17 am to GumboPot
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Or and if he wins the presidency he can veto funding to GA and NY unless they expunge his record.
Yikes. That’s some commie shite. But that is where you people are now.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:19 am to GumboPot
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if he wins the presidency he can veto funding to GA and NY unless they expunge his record.
Sounds like a fantastic way to get impeached and removed.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:19 am to GumboPot
quote:Just ... wow.
if (Trump) wins the presidency he can veto funding to GA and NY unless they expunge his record.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:32 am to tarzan84
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Guess anything is possible but since Mark isn’t a legal scholar and every legal scholar I have heard says this isn’t true, I have my doubts.
I don't think it's remotely possible. I was just stating Levin's position. If anything, I think the proceedings would pause until the end of Trump's term, but he'd never escape them.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:37 am to Timeoday
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how are the 1000's of DA's and state prosecutors given such authority to "cripple" a Presidency?
You really don't understand how America was built and the intersections and overlap of Federal and State laws.
The Vast right-wing conspiracy is getting the light turned on.
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