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re: Who are the General Contractors for the plants around Baton Rouge & the rest of Louisiana?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:57 pm to SkinnyPete
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:57 pm to SkinnyPete
Austin, Brock, and MMR at Lyondell.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:07 pm to SkinnyPete
A number of companies work within plants, Turner, Jacob Field Services, etc. Within some plants, the companies give a better bid, the workers stay, change the names on the hard hats.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:53 pm to LSUDad
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A number of companies work within plants, Turner, Jacob Field Services, etc. Within some plants, the companies give a better bid, the workers stay, change the names on the hard hats.
Doing some rack work on a pipeline for a client that runs into Shell Convent and ended up using Turner who has a operational presence inside the plant. The plant is not operational right now and Turner was very agreeable to help out as a subcontractor since they haven't really been doing much till we got there. They have been very easy to work with and have been an absolute pleasure to deal with even though they are probably double maybe triple our size.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:13 pm to SkinnyPete
It changes every few years as they rebid everything but most of the names contractors maintain some level of presence to avoid lack of competition in pricing. Turner, Performance, Jacobs/Worley, Zachry, Cajun and of course the other trades like ISC, Brock, Brand all come in and out of the plants.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:32 pm to CitizenK
Turner has been losing a lot of maintenance contracts. They've lost Westlake Plaquemine, Nova, and Marathon recently.
Brown & Root is making a come back.
Brown & Root is making a come back.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:42 pm to ChestRockwell
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Does Eddie Rispone own one of those companies?
nope
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:05 pm to JonTheTigerFan
The new Brown and Root has been taking 5-6 plant maintenace contracts from Turner for the last 4 - 5 years.
Turner is about half it's 2015 size.
Turner is about half it's 2015 size.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:00 pm to SkinnyPete
Brown and Root is taking over in Southwest Louisiana. They won the maintenance contracts for WR Grace, LA Pigment, and the mechanical at Sasol.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:04 pm to TigerWiz
I get my companies confused, but is Brown and Root the one Jim Bernhard revived?
He was buying and starting several companies 4-5 years back to get aggressively back in the industrial business
He was buying and starting several companies 4-5 years back to get aggressively back in the industrial business
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:06 pm to notiger1997
No Bernhard owns a private equity firm that mainly specializes in department of energy contracts, not industrial.
He many had revived a company, but it's not Brown and Root.
Brown and Root is huge. It's a subsidiary of Halliburton.
He many had revived a company, but it's not Brown and Root.
Brown and Root is huge. It's a subsidiary of Halliburton.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:22 pm to TigerWiz
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No Bernhard owns a private equity firm that mainly specializes in department of energy contracts, not industrial. He many had revived a company, but it's not Brown and Root. Brown and Root is huge. It's a subsidiary of Halliburton.
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TigerWiz
I see why your username is TigerWiz and not TigerWizkid.
KBR was a part of Halliburton at some point, broke off and then KBR spun off B&R (industrial service group) via Bernhard Capital
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:02 pm to 985_Tiger
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Zachry for mechanical maintenance, SWAT for turnaround work, ISC for electrical, & BrandSafway for scaffolding/painting. See alot of Turner & Jacobs/Worley for mechanical maintenance in plants up & down the river in LA.
Pretty sure we work in the same plant.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:08 pm to LootieandtheBlowfish
Thank you. I knew I wasn’t losing my mind.
In addition he started Epic Pipe(which kind of fell on its arse for the first couple of years they opened but I haven’t heard anything about them in a few years, and made some other plays to get rolling again.
With B&R he hired a VP level guys from Turner and they came strolling in with rates that were stupid high and it didn’t exactly take off as planned in the beginning
In addition he started Epic Pipe(which kind of fell on its arse for the first couple of years they opened but I haven’t heard anything about them in a few years, and made some other plays to get rolling again.
With B&R he hired a VP level guys from Turner and they came strolling in with rates that were stupid high and it didn’t exactly take off as planned in the beginning
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:23 pm to LootieandtheBlowfish
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KBR was a part of Halliburton at some point, broke off and then KBR spun off B&R (industrial service group) via Bernhard Capital
My bad. My assumption was Halliburton was a much bigger company than Bernhard's old company Shaw. So logically I'd assumed he couldn't afford it but with a quick google search you're right. Didn't know they broke off.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:06 pm to GrizzlyAlloy
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Turner has been losing a lot of maintenance contracts. They've lost Westlake Plaquemine, Nova, and Marathon recently.
Yep, they have also lost a few Olin plants, and in a few other plants, their work has been reduced and replaced by other contractors.
Turner sells the one stop shop for all of your industrial services, from hard craft to soft crafts, and that sells to purchasing at the corporate level as they tend to mark-up their labor at insanely low levels sometimes as low as 18%. But it has been my experience that plant operators (the ones that can make or break maintenance contracts) hate them as they are very rigid and difficult to deal with, as big companies tend to be.
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