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Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:33 pm to RobbBobb
What year did he get $27 billion from the fed? I’m sure he took the money but why did he take that money?
Florida had a $11 billion surplus in 2020, a $13 billion surplus in 2021, and a $20 billion surplus in 2022.
Florida had a $11 billion surplus in 2020, a $13 billion surplus in 2021, and a $20 billion surplus in 2022.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:35 pm to TrueTiger
Trump doesn’t have any policies. His entire campaign is they cheated me last time.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:37 pm to RobbBobb
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I'll do the Maths for you, because I know you Ronbois arent that bright
Ron got $27B from the feds
Ron has a $22B surplus
So Ron has spent $5B of fed money, that came from a fed gov that cut those checks RESULTING in a deficit
If Ron was really a conservative. he would not have applied for $27B in deficit money, to prop up his state budget, right?
The $27B came from the FEDs. If it came from FEDs it means some of it came from Florida taxpayers. So yes, Ron would want to get his share of that money or he wouldn't be doing his job.
What you should be looking at does Florida's expenditures exceed it's revenue. No it doesn't. DeSantis ran surpluses.
Trump , on the other hand, spent way more $$$ than he had coming in resulting in large deficits.
This is simple stuff BTW. Hard to understand why you don't get it.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:39 pm to RobbBobb
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Abortion - Trump overturned Roe
Supreme Court did to give democrats something to campaign on
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Immigration - same
Obama deported more people than trump
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Budgets - DeSantis applied for $27 billion in fed covid funds
Trump campaigned on draining the swamp then got to d.c. and gave the swamp more money and power
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Education - same
Trump did nothing to change the educational system he just gave the broken system more money. I like desantis idea of promoting technical schools
quote:i give you this one
Taxes - same
quote:things seemed pretty regulated during COVID when he was letting fauci run country
Regulations - same
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Energy - same
I give you this one
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:41 pm to deltaland
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Be specific. In what ways is Trump more conservative or what area of policy are his ideas better?
Trump is better suited to handle geopolitical shitbags like China, WEF, NATO, and the like. Nobody is going to listen to a dago in high heels owned by hedge funds on the world stage. This hokey Mayberry RFD bullshite act is ridiculous at this level.
He’s a good governor. That’s a great level of power and political success.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:51 pm to ItNeverRains
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Trump is better suited to handle geopolitical shitbags like China,
Trump let Chinese virus reset our economy and shutdown cities and small businesses. It didn't fell like he dealt with them it felt like they won
quote:how come he didn't disband NATO when he was in office
WEF, NATO, and the like.
quote:companies like blackrock started buying up America when trump was president, and his shutting down economy and small businesses because of Chinese virus
Nobody is going to listen to a dago in high heels owned by hedge funds on the world stage.
quote:did trump accomplish anything as president or did he bitch the whole time
This hokey Mayberry RFD bullshite act is ridiculous at this level.
He’s a good governor. That’s a great level of power and political success.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:53 pm to ItNeverRains
Straw men are like oxygen to Ronbots
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:57 pm to Madking
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Straw men are like oxygen to Ronbots
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:58 pm to shreveport_gator
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What year did he get $27 billion from the fed? I’m sure he took the money but why did he take that money?
Florida had a $11 billion surplus in 2020, a $13 billion surplus in 2021, and a $20 billion surplus in 2022.
Funny you should ask
2020 - Rob applied for and received $8B of deficit spending
2021 - Rob applied for and received $9B of deficit spending
2022 - Rob applied for and recieved $10B of deficit spending
2023 - Biden ended the covid emergency and its funding
He took the money to prop up Florida budget. And I'm not the one making these claims. Rick Scott did
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The Governor rejected calls to return surplus funds, saying they'd just go to 'blue states.'
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U.S. Sen. Rick Scott was asked about DeSantis continuing to “deploy” COVID-19 relief funds for priorities not related to the pandemic. Scott said leaders with extra funds should return them to defray the federal debt.
“What every responsible state and local official should do is they should say ‘Hey, I’m going to send that money back. We need to pay down this $30 trillion worth of debt.’ We can’t waste money,” Scott said.
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He also has described the allocation process as “Washington at its worst.” And he said before running for President that there was no point in giving the overage back to the federal government.
Ronbois posters on this matter are nothing but hypocrites. Trump bad for sending the money. DeSantis good for keeping it
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:02 pm to RobbBobb
So Florida had a budget surplus every year even if you take all of the Fed money out. Got it.
And the reason states were taking that money is because the Fed was making it hard to function normally during Covid by pushing for shut downs.
I can see why returning the money sounds good but it wouldn’t have gone to lower the national debt. It would have gone to blue states or other projects.
And the reason states were taking that money is because the Fed was making it hard to function normally during Covid by pushing for shut downs.
I can see why returning the money sounds good but it wouldn’t have gone to lower the national debt. It would have gone to blue states or other projects.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:09 pm to shreveport_gator
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So Florida had a budget surplus every year even if you take all of the Fed money out. Got it.
wut?
Again, lets do the Maths
You said in 2020 DeSantis had an $11B surplus. Then he got $9B more in fed money, meaning he should have had a $20B surplus. Yet you yourself said he only had a $13B surplus.
translation: He spent $7B more than his state raised. Cuz he couldnt resist spending that fed money. And not on covid
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:10 pm to RobbBobb
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2020 - Rob applied for and received $8B
2021 - Rob applied for and received $9B
2022 - Rob applied for and recieved $10B
Can you name a state that DID NOT ACCEPT COVID funds?
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Trump bad for sending the money
That is right genius. If Trump and DC would not have sent it the states would not have spent it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:11 pm to frogtown
The Florida Constitution requires the state legislature to pass a balanced budget every single year.
Robb, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about.
Robb, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:13 pm to frogtown
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Trump bad for sending the money
That is right genius. If Trump and DC would not have sent it the states would not have spent it.
If trump didn't let fauci reset the economy and tell small businesses they could tell, desantis and Florida wouldn't have needed the money
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:15 pm to Padme
quote:At least YOU tried.
Supreme Court justices policies Making peace break out policies Making retirement accounts ascend policies
But that was only half the question. Whar are his policies AND how are they different?
as to SCOTUS nominees, for instance, do you really think that either of these two men is going to do anything other than pick names off the list of recommendations from Heritage Society and The Federalist?
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:18 pm to RobbBobb
The surplus is without federal $ added. So if Florida had a $13 billion surplus, if you take out the $9 billion they still had a $4 billion surplus. Same for the other years as well. Maybe we just see the numbers differently.
It looks like each year their surplus was more than the fed gave them. Fed money accounts for about 33% of Florida’s budget which makes them the 34th most dependent state.
It looks like each year their surplus was more than the fed gave them. Fed money accounts for about 33% of Florida’s budget which makes them the 34th most dependent state.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:21 pm to bobBoxer
you actually believed obama was better than trump on illegal immigration? did you see the type of BS deportations he did? and how many times those same clowns came back quickly?
funny you left that out. trump got out tons of criminals, MS13z, etc. the court backlogs are backed up worse than ever. that plays a factor in slower deportations.trump was the best ever with lowest number of refugees also since woodrow wilson.
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when did he promise to disband NATO? he fought them to pay their fair share agreed to of 2% of GDP towards NATO which W and obama gave two shits about.
ok now i know you are a hack commie clown.
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funny you left that out. trump got out tons of criminals, MS13z, etc. the court backlogs are backed up worse than ever. that plays a factor in slower deportations.trump was the best ever with lowest number of refugees also since woodrow wilson.
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First, the number of people caught trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border has dropped precipitously under Trump, an indication that his hard-line enforcement has scared people away.
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Another factor is the immigration courts, which face a backlog of more than 610,000 cases, according to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University. The case backlog grew exponentially during the Obama administration — partly the result of Central Americans seeking asylum in the U.S. — but the pileup has worsened under Trump. It has expanded by nearly 100,000 cases so far in the current fiscal year, an 18 percent increase.
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how come he didn't disband NATO when he was in office
when did he promise to disband NATO? he fought them to pay their fair share agreed to of 2% of GDP towards NATO which W and obama gave two shits about.
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did trump accomplish anything as president or did he bitch the whole time
ok now i know you are a hack commie clown.
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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SCOTUS overturned Roe.
And yet repub presidents, some with more SCOTUS picks than Trump, didnt ever do that
Nixon - 4
Ford - 1
Reagan - 4
Bush I - 2
W - 2
Trump - 3
And Mitch McConnell was in the Senate for 10 of those confirmations
hmmmmmmmm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:26 pm to PorkSammich
quote:It would be idiotic not to.
Yet they don’t care he’s still pushing a dangerous vaxx.
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