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Now we have former Lieutenant capital officer & the Police Chief stating Jan 6 was a setup

Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:59 am
Posted by FlexDawg
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:59 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:18 pm to
It's fascinating to watch how the narrative has changed.

I remember on January 6, I was with a friend who was obsessed with COVID. When she started up with it, I said, "Not today. Today we're going to pay attention to events unfolding at the Capitol." We then proceeded to watch the mob form and eventually break into the Capitol while Congress was conducting business.

She was amazed at how I knew that was going to happen, and wanted to know how I knew about it.. I told her, "From reading the Election Board on the Tigerdroppings website."

But now we can all pretend that none of that was written down, we can pretend that no one was talking about how they were going to go to DC to help Stop the Steal, right here on this very website, because it has been removed. Now we can blame other actors, and make up complex conspiracy theories because no one wants to admit they were suckered into the unlawful fight to keep Trump in office even though he lost to a fricking turnip.

We miss you, Election Board.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7424 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:22 pm to
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She was amazed at how I knew that was going to happen, and wanted to know how I knew about it.. I told her, "From reading the Election Board on the Tigerdroppings website."


Are you retarded?
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11690 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:23 pm to
I remember folks talking about attending a rally but don’t recall anything about anyone discussing breaking into congress to stop any government proceedings
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43222 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:23 pm to
Thanks a lot Tarik. Now they'll be adding more charges to Trump to make this story fade away.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:00 pm to
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I remember folks talking about attending a rally but don’t recall anything about anyone discussing breaking into congress to stop any government proceedings




Nice try. People on the Election were even talking about bringing guns to DC. To their credit, I don't recall anyone saying they would. Most cited the fact that they were unclear about all the states' laws they would be traveling through.

The point though, is that they weren't motivated by DNC operatives. They were getting worked up watching OAN and the like.

They were going to see the Kraken!
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:07 pm to
Did FlexDawg get banned?
Posted by TUman
Member since Aug 2005
305 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Fox News Deleted Scene from Tucker Carlson’s Interview with the Capitol Police Chief “Leaks”, Saying, “It was a Cover Up!”

Desantis man Murdoch with Fox News!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86387 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Nice try


Yeap nice indeed, i watched video of capitol police escorting people around and unlocking doors.

I also know that no police died that day, do you?

I also have seen videos of a guy wearing maga hat saying to break in and a bunch of people saying no, dont do it. he is now being protected by hillary clintons lawyers.

I also saw videos of a BLM activist, ones he recorded and ones with him in it, dawning maga gear walking around the capitol.


And to top it all off, i watched video all summer of the left murdering 25 people and doing $2 billion in damages. Burning government buildings, churches and private businesses.



This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22826 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:25 pm to
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It's fascinating to watch how the narrative has changed.


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Now we can blame other actors, and make up complex conspiracy theories because no one wants to admit they were suckered into the unlawful fight to keep Trump in office even though he lost to a fricking turnip.


This is the Capitol Police Chief making these claims. It’s fascinating that he has been largely silenced, as he was the one charged with leading one side of the fight.

If you wanted to investigate what happened that day, would you not call this guy first?

Any other significant criminal matter in this country has the police chief answering questions at press conferences, but this guy can’t even do an interview on Fox News?
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3190 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:19 pm to
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It's fascinating to watch how the narrative has changed.
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But now we can all pretend that none of that was written down, we can pretend that no one was talking about how they were going to go to DC to help Stop the Steal, right here on this very website, because it has been removed.


I've seen enough of your posts over time to know you're intelligent / not stupid. That being said, you're being myopic here and remembering what you remember to support your preferred narrative.

Yes, there were posts on the Election Board in which some posters advocated going to DC to Stop the Steal. I'm not accusing you of being inaccurate in that regard. What you're not remembering is that there was also a good bit of chatter on the Election Board that antifa, undercover operators, etc. were also going to DC disguised as MAGA factions, and were going to start trouble in some form or fashion. At the time of the election, I only got my national/election news through TD, and, like you, was highly aware that protests might lead to violence and/or storming the Capitol. But, because of the info on this site, I also watched with great interest for tells of "bad actors" infiltrating MAGA ranks and instigating events.

So, for you to suggest:
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But now we can all pretend that none of that was written down, we can pretend that no one was talking about how they were going to go to DC to help Stop the Steal, right here on this very website, because it has been removed. Now we can blame other actors, and make up complex conspiracy theories because no one wants to admit they were suckered into the unlawful fight to keep Trump in office even though he lost to a fricking turnip.

is simply an emotionally fueled partial remembrance of a situation that satisfies your desire to be right in your dislike of Trump & a portion of his supporters. Nothing more.

At the time of J6, there was plenty of evidence warning people to not get "suckered into the unlawful fight" or other stupidity. The Capitol Police Chief, Sund, admitting some of the issues now is just a validation of what many here already knew: Pelosi, the media, FBI, etc. wanted violence and were going to manipulate it into something more than it was, and planned to make an example out of any participants in ways they would refuse to do with other leftist protestors around the country who were razing/sacking parts of cities-- including govt buildings. Every cop who moved a barricade on J6 to allow crowds of Patriot Front (FBI) looking guys in matching outfits that just debarked from a nice looking chartered bus was viewed with suspicion.

Nobody is fabricating bad actors or concocting conspiracy theories in hindsight.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5669 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Nice try. People on the Election were even talking about bringing guns to DC. To their credit, I don't recall anyone saying they would. Most cited the fact that they were unclear about all the states' laws they would be traveling through.

The point though, is that they weren't motivated by DNC operatives. They were getting worked up watching OAN and the like.

They were going to see the Kraken!



I dont think you even believe what you post. I know everyone else doesnt. Move along freak. DU needs their village idiot back.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:36 pm to
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i watched video of capitol police escorting people around and unlocking doors.


I wonder what percentage of law enforcement personnel are Trump voters...
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I also know that no police died that day, do you?

Irrelevant. No one has to die in an insurrection. SEE: Sametová revoluce.
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a guy wearing maga hat saying to break in and a bunch of people saying no, dont do it. he is now being protected by hillary clintons lawyers.

Well now, that explains...
...nothing.
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a BLM activist, ones he recorded and ones with him in it, dawning maga gear walking around the capitol.

We'll just assume you mean "donning", but if I'm BLM, I'm not going to a MAGA riot in BLM gear.
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i watched video all summer of the left murdering 25 people and doing $2 billion in damages. Burning government buildings, churches and private businesses.

Were they trespassing on Capitol grounds with the express intent of stopping the transfer of power from Trump to Biden? No? Then that's irrelevant to January 6 as well.

I watched video on January 6th of mobs of people violently pushing their way into the Capitol, shouting, "Hang Mike Pence". Not just one or two, but many. They were incited, not just that day, but for days prior, by Donald J. Trump.

What Trump brought about on that day was an embarrassment to the country and should be punished.

I understand you want other people punished for other crimes. Yes, I agree other people should be punished for other crimes. But we're talking about Trump's involvement in the riot that occurred on January 6 at the nation's capitol.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:38 pm to
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But we're talking about Trump's involvement in the riot that occurred on January 6 at the nation's capitol.


You may be. The topic isn't really about that at all.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5669 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:38 pm to
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What Trump brought about on that day was an embarrassment to the country and should be punished.

I understand you want other people punished for other crimes. Yes, I agree other people should be punished for other crimes. But we're talking about Trump's involvement in the riot that occurred on January 6 at the nation's capitol.


You mean when he said "march down to the capital and peacefully protest". Dude you are spewing crap. Run along now.
Posted by VictoryTiger
Member since Aug 2023
382 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:39 pm to
Curious as why you think these two would lie about this? From my understanding, don’t cops usually lie to advance their careers, not destroy them. I’m pretty sure speaking out against the federal govt is a good way to accomplish the latter.
Posted by Ghost of Bob Horner
Somewhere between Atlanta & Athens
Member since Jul 2023
410 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:43 pm to
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I remember folks talking about attending a rally but don’t recall anything about anyone discussing breaking into congress to stop any government proceedings


None of my friends who went had any thoughts of entering the Capital. For what it's worth, they did say they could pick out the feds and antifa from the crowd.

Now let them start bringing charges against everyone who stormed government buildings during the Kavanugh hearings.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:58 pm to
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I've seen enough of your posts over time to know you're intelligent / not stupid.

That's about the nicest thing anyone has said to me on this board.
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What you're not remembering is that there was also a good bit of chatter on the Election Board that antifa, undercover operators, etc. were also going to DC disguised as MAGA factions, and were going to start trouble in some form or fashion.

I'm not denying that. My point is that the people at the capitol that day were not all motivated by DNC operatives. The narrative on the board these days, is that the whole thing was orchestrated by non-Trump supporters. That's not what I saw. It looked to me that the vast majority of people were Trump supporters, and then most of them didn't actually enter the Capitol. Trump supporters now want to point out the relatively few instances of non-violent entry, which I do not deny, but that doesn't represent the majority of what I saw going on.
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an emotionally fueled partial remembrance of a situation that satisfies your desire to be right in your dislike of Trump & a portion of his supporters. Nothing more.

That is exactly what I say the Trump supporters are doing. They cannot admit that they were roused by the talk by Trump of cheating and stealing, and would rather point to relatively few instances of when other actors were pursuing their own agendas.

What you point out about the Election Board and discussion of other instigators, no one is denying. That's why I don't feel the need to point that out for anyone. What seems to be missing from today's discussion, though, is all the discussion about attending the "rally" being promoted by pro-Trump sources. That's all I'm trying to do, point out that there were many Trump supporters going to DC motivated by other posters, right wing commentators and Trump himself.

Yes, there is evidence that there were "bad actors", but that in and of itself isn't enough to say that Trump didn't conspire with throngs of people to enter the capitol with the intent to stop the Congress from conducting their business being the peaceful transfer of power.

And thank you for your thoughtful response to my previous post. I know I can be an arse, but I'll try to remember your respectful manner.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6156 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:00 pm to
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remember on January 6, I was with a friend who was obsessed with COVID. When she started up with it, I said, "Not today. Today we're going to pay attention to events unfolding at the Capitol." We then proceeded to watch the mob form and eventually break into the Capitol while Congress was conducting business. She was amazed at how I knew that was going to happen, and wanted to know how I knew about it.. I told her, "From reading the Election Board on the Tigerdroppings website."


Yeah, this didn’t happen
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85510 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:00 pm to
Why won't they release the thousands of hours of video?
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