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re: Non-Political Mississippi River Question

Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:56 pm to
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The United States developed from East to West, rather than vice versa. Makes sense to build a town on the side of the river closer to civilization, especially before there were any bridges
But the Mississippi was a major highway of commerce long before the US expanded that far, back to when the French owned both banks.

I think Tittle has the answer, and the bluffs mostly being on the Left Bank is just coincidence.

Thanks for the thought.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Because settlers moving west generally stopped on the east bank first and started their communities there.

They didn’t have bridges back then Hank. It was a bitch to ferry supplies across.
Rebel, most of the cities in question were founded by the French when it owned both sides, and they did not move east from Appalachia. They moved up and down the river, from the Gulf and from French Canada.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104028 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Odd that the bluffs all seem to be on the Left Bank, but it is what it is.



For the most part, we have stopped the river at the eastern edge of its historical meandering - at least in the lower section.

The Mississippi Delta area is the exception.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
133616 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Odd that the bluffs all seem to be on the Left Bank, but it is what it is.


It isn’t odd at all Geo-Hank if you understood tectonic plates and fault lines.

Why would you come in here and tell people that actually grew up and live at various points on the river that we use improper vernacular?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
16637 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:58 pm to
Just passed over the river at St Louis. What side of the river is that city on?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18680 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

But the Mississippi was a major highway of commerce long before the US expanded that far, back to when the French owned both banks.



And before the US expanded that far, there were French settlements on the East side. Because that's closer to France. You know. Where they came from.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6201 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

St. Louis is on the wrong side.


St Louis was built near the Mississippi River and Missouri River confluence. West side made the most sense.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
33137 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Why the frick is this on THIS board, named POLITICAL Talk.

I made it political when I brought Rising Tide into the discussion. If the bullshite in that book leading up to the great flood, nothing is. Oh, and it's mostly New Orleans politics.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
133616 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Rebel, most of the cities in question were founded by the French when it owned both sides, and they did not move east from Appalachia.


What part of France did Hernando Desoto come from?

Jesus Christ.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Why the frick is this on THIS board, named POLITICAL Talk.
Because the bulk of this forum have some sort of cultural ties to the Mississippi river, and I thought someone would know the answer.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
16299 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

New Orleans
Baton Rouge
Natchez
Vicksburg
Memphis
etc.


Typically the east bank is higher ground, besides NOLA
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18680 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Because the bulk of this forum have some sort of cultural ties to the Mississippi river, and I thought someone would know the answer.



What specifically about the Political Board makes you believe members have a greater connection to the Mississippi here than on other boards?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Why would you come in here and tell people that actually grew up and live at various points on the river that we use improper vernacular?
You can use whatever terminology you want. I simply explained my usage to a poster who insisted that it was incorrect. It is not.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1697 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:05 pm to
It's likely that, that is reason the cities are located on that particular spot along the East side of the river. Not that they are on the "Left" side in the first place.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18680 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:05 pm to
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You can use whatever terminology you want. I simply explained my usage to a poster who insisted that it was incorrect. It is not.



Except it was incorrect. You said using relative directions is better than compass directions, but the relative direction is relative based upon a compass direction.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1697 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

higher ground, besides NOLA


The French Quarter actually is the high ground.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
133616 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I thought someone would know the answer.


And despite been given the very obvious answer multiple times you choose to be a contrarian a-hole per usual.

You claim the French settled Natchez, Vicksburg, and Memphis.

You are as wrong as defending child groomers. But you do that too. Do you ever wonder why most people find you unlikable?

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11544 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:09 pm to
My guess is trade mostly went that direction in the beginning. For various reasons, like high ground, bigger/closer cities in east, etc...

It probably even followed native American trading lanes like the Natchez Trace. By the time the west grew there were bridges and ferries.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Seriously. I'm waiting for some kind of gotcha.

ETA: I was beaten by mere seconds with Hank's dumb gotcha.
Fraud, if you see some sort of "gotcha," you are imagining it.

Again, I think Tittle provided the answer with the bluffs. It is just a coincidence/accident of geography that the bluffs are mostly on the Right Bank.

Here in Texas, what we call the "high bank" of a river switches sides a lot as the river moves through the state, sometimes several times in a few dozen miles. Apparently, the Mississippi doesn't do that.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
16637 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Non-Political Mississippi River Question


It was easier to settle the east side of the river and bring shite to the bank in the olden days. Otherwise they would have had to haul stuff across a pretty large, world class river to settle. Look at the day of origin for the various cities. I'd assume cities with ports on the West Bank were "incorporated" into port cities at later dates. Just a guess.
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