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Liz Cheney and Ron spout the same talking points on Jan 6th
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:01 pm
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“He would not issue a public statement instructing his supporters to disperse and leave the Capitol, despite urgent pleas from his White House staff and dozens of others to do so.”
-Liz Cheney
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I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on. He should have come out more forcefully, of course, that.
- Rob DeSantis.
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:04 pm to Jjdoc
And I want to point out that they are both WRONG
Contrary to DeSantis’s claims, Trump issued a video statement on Twitter during the disorder, urging protesters: “[Y]ou have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order.”
Twitter took down the video and permanently suspended Trump’s account. The video was not restored even after Elon Musk reinstated the account, though it can still be viewed in the Miller Center presidential archive.
Contrary to DeSantis’s claims, Trump issued a video statement on Twitter during the disorder, urging protesters: “[Y]ou have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order.”
Twitter took down the video and permanently suspended Trump’s account. The video was not restored even after Elon Musk reinstated the account, though it can still be viewed in the Miller Center presidential archive.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:04 pm to Jjdoc
Harvey Milk said a lot of the same things as DJT.
So what.
So what.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:05 pm to Jjdoc
Legally, I don’t think Trump had to say anything.
Politically, it’s hard to say. It’s tough to walk the line of trying to do the “right” thing without impliedly accepting responsibility for it.
As a normal adult with common sense and decency, frick yeah he should have at least tried to send the message out earlier and more emphatically to back down.
Politically, it’s hard to say. It’s tough to walk the line of trying to do the “right” thing without impliedly accepting responsibility for it.
As a normal adult with common sense and decency, frick yeah he should have at least tried to send the message out earlier and more emphatically to back down.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:06 pm to Jjdoc
Those are not the same statement. I'm starting to think you are a Democrat since you continuously choose to call out the extreme right instead of the left.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:06 pm to Jjdoc
He said that’s not a criminal thing but that’s what he should have done.
I’ll do one further. I said it at the time and I’ll say it now.
He should have never called for anyone to go to DC on Jan 6 and should have never riled them up.
He didn’t believe what he was saying but his followers will buy anything he says
Even if he did believe it that was the biggest set up of all time and he had them walk right into it
I’ll do one further. I said it at the time and I’ll say it now.
He should have never called for anyone to go to DC on Jan 6 and should have never riled them up.
He didn’t believe what he was saying but his followers will buy anything he says
Even if he did believe it that was the biggest set up of all time and he had them walk right into it
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:06 pm to Jjdoc
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Contrary to DeSantis’s claims, Trump issued a video statement on Twitter during the disorder, urging protesters: “[Y]ou have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order.”
That should have been done as soon as people were seen charging the building. When was it actually done? Minutes or hours after breach?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm to Jon Ham
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As a normal adult with common sense and decency, frick yeah he should have at least tried to send the message out earlier and more emphatically to back down.
Already shown he did that.
RON is spouting the DEM LED COMMITTEE TALKING POINTS.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm to Jjdoc
To be fair, Rob is better than Liz.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:08 pm to Jjdoc
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Jjdoc
Why are you intentionally leaving this off?
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“So look, there’s a difference between being brought up on criminal charges and doing things like, for example, I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on. He should have come out more forcefully, of course, that. But to try to criminalize that, that’s a different issue entirely, and I think that we want to be in a situation where, you know, you don’t have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail. And that unfortunately is what we’re seeing now.”
You're just spamming the board now. It was in the other thread and you still left it out.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:08 pm to Adam Banks
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He should have never called for anyone to go to DC on Jan 6 and should have never riled them up.
He didn’t believe what he was saying but his followers will buy anything he says
I strongly believe in personal responsibility so I will never say Trump caused his supporters to get imprisoned or shot that day. But if he would have acted like an honest adult and not as a revolutionary cosplayer, those things probably wouldn’t have happened.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:08 pm to Adam Banks
The biggest mistake the right ever made was not supporting the J6ers. 99.9% of these people were peaceful but they've been treated like enemies of the US.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:08 pm to Jjdoc
DeSantis literally said that Trump didn't do anything criminal and that the entire process against him is wrong.
Now if you think Trump acted completely perfectly that day and was without flaws that's fine I guess but he could have handled the situation better. That's all he said and any sane person agrees with him. He is also correct that not handling things as well as you could have is not illegal or criminal.
Liz Cheney OTOH wants Trump to die in prison and if you let Biden or Newsom win instead of letting DeSantis beat them they will likely get their wish.
Now if you think Trump acted completely perfectly that day and was without flaws that's fine I guess but he could have handled the situation better. That's all he said and any sane person agrees with him. He is also correct that not handling things as well as you could have is not illegal or criminal.
Liz Cheney OTOH wants Trump to die in prison and if you let Biden or Newsom win instead of letting DeSantis beat them they will likely get their wish.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:08 pm to Landmass
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Those are not the same statement.
Same talking point and it's why people are blowing up social media condemning Desantis as I type.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:09 pm to Jjdoc
More lies from JJbot
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:09 pm to Jjdoc
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Jjdoc
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“So look, there’s a difference between being brought up on criminal charges and doing things like, for example, I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on. He should have come out more forcefully, of course, that. But to try to criminalize that, that’s a different issue entirely, and I think that we want to be in a situation where, you know, you don’t have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail. And that unfortunately is what we’re seeing now.”
Why are you omitting the bolded?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:10 pm to Jjdoc
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Same talking point and it's why people are blowing up social media condemning Desantis as I type.
The reason people are blowing up social media is because of the red sunglasses Cult45 wear over their blue faces.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:11 pm to BugAC
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Why are you omitting the bolded?
Because he wants to make it something it is not.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:13 pm to BugAC
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Why are you intentionally leaving this off?
I am speaking to a specific point made by DeSantis.
Note, I didn;t mention his SS stance either.
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You're just spamming the board now. It was in the other thread and you still left it out.
Not spamming anything.
They both stated the same talking point.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:13 pm to Adam Banks
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He should have never called for anyone to go to DC on Jan 6 and should have never riled them up.
He didn’t believe what he was saying but his followers will buy anything he says
Even if he did believe it that was the biggest set up of all time and he had them walk right into it
I think about this a lot. After getting set up by the intel agencies on Russiagate and the Ukraine nonsense, how could he be so stupid not to realize J6 was a trap? Even if it wasn't criminal, it was reckless and stupid and got people's hopes up that he had some smoking gun.
I didn't have a problem with some of the legal challenges, but he should have called off the dogs and conceded around Christmas. What did people want to happen after J6? Six month audits? Imagine if Hillary did the same thing.
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