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Sky News Australia: French Inferno

Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:09 pm
Sky News Australia had a long video discussing the situation in France. YouTube 27 minutes

We all know the general situation - shooting of a teenage boy.

Summary of the video: France is a mess, it's been a long time coming. They have done a poor job with immigration. There is no vetting, there is no assimilation, many of the African immigrants do not like or respect France or its culture. When this incident settles down, the problem will still exist and turmoil is assured to happen again in the near future.

The notes below are just captures of what the various guests had to say. Most are media members that cover France and relevant topics.

Here are my notes:
- The violence appears to be starting to abate.
- North African but African community in general is mostly involved, and levied accusations of racism.
French police may have a very small amount of racism but it is thought be very small, and overall French police are seen to be pretty adequate.
- For 20yrs or so, inner cities have been described as 'lost territories' within France due to immigration. Bad people doing bad things. This culture shift of lawlessness, particularly in Paris, is a serious problem in France.
- France has not integrated the huge African population and this is a problem. Unskilled, Muslim immigrants are not integrating or assimilating, and don't respect French norms. Heart of the problem is this large group and they do not accept French norms, ways, culture, laws, and so forth. Social integration is a problem.
- Like we often see, looting and violence affects innocent people, innocent businesses.
- In some of these areas there is up to 40% unemployment.
- Many policies in France contribute to tension from banning of head scarves to prohibiting the survey of French people on their ethnic origins. In recent years police have been authorized to shoot at moving vehicles (relevant to this case) in response to the terror attacks from 2015. However, needed training for police is often absent.
- Deep concern in France from retired military, wrote letter to Macron and said France was on the brink of civil war. Response from Macron govt was to attack these people rather than deal with the problem. Now France is at a tipping point.
- Violence is drifting now but belief is that it will erupt again in the future, probably near future.
- Immigrants essentially reject France and have contempt for the 'liberal' values such as equality among the sexes. People like Le Pen are saying to deport those with criminal offenses, refuse asylum to many that come to France, examine a treaty with Algeria that makes it easy to setting in France if you're from Algeria. EU must get involved - 100k people earlier this year left Africa for Italy. 40k were stopped, 60k got through, which is an increase of 135% from last year, and that total will go up as they are entering the 'boating season' now. These are mostly young men from cultures that don't want to respect France. Many are economic migrants, they want to make money but have no intention of assimilating.
- Macron making things worse by going to Elton John concert while the nation burns.
- British journalist chimes in about integration, says discussions about what it means to be British take place in the UK, but in France, those types of conversations don't exist.
- Many protestors have hijacked the protests for their own agenda.
- Initial statement from police helped spark anger. They claimed they were in fear for their lives but it appeared that was not the case. Within 48 hours they estimate 250 schools attacked, 1000 buildings, 6000 cars, so in many areas you don't have people with functioning cars, communities with no grocery stores etc.
- Far left is among the protestors and they just love to fight the police.
- French population is now over 10% Muslim.
- France has a policy of not recognizing minority / majority status but just says everyone is French. Sounds good on paper but produces problems.
- French left has a long history of hating France. And there's a long list of evil people that were educated in France: Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, and others.
- Other minorities in France have been very successful so immigration isn't hurting, it's the immigration from the wrong people, like people that have always been hostile to France and lived a culture very different, and the generous welfare benefits encourages their transit.
- Estimates are that 65%-70% of people want some additional controls put in place regarding who comes into the nation.
- Politicians do nothing.
- Some of the far left in France resembles the same far left in the US.

This is a festering mess and it's not going to get better soon. If France and the rest of Europe do not get immigration under control, the consequences will be disastrous for them.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:12 pm to
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France has not integrated the huge African population and this is a problem.

This may be why the monolithic Scandinavian societies seem so nice. And go to Iceland and look at those people. They get along so well.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:18 pm to
As automation and AI will eliminate the need for many sectors of the economy, it’s a good strategy to allow unfettered migration to your country, especially from areas where they hate your ideals.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10152 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:30 pm to
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100k people earlier this year left Africa for Italy. 40k were stopped, 60k got through

Rookie numbers.

--Joe Biden--probably
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11680 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:37 pm to
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As automation and AI will eliminate the need for many sectors of the economy, it’s a good strategy to allow unfettered migration to your country, especially from areas where they hate your ideals.


Yeah...if we don't get it right in 2024, we are going to have serious issues here.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:02 pm to
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This is a festering mess and it's not going to get better soon. If France and the rest of Europe do not get immigration under control, the consequences will be disastrous for them.




Borders, culture and language matter.

Open Borders, or the “Camp of-the Saints” Problem...

“...The question of open borders, or free immigration, has become an accelerating problem for classical liberals. This is first, because the welfare state increasingly subsidizes immigrants to enter and receive permanent assistance, and second, because cultural boundaries have become increasingly swamped. I began to rethink my views on immigration when, as the Soviet Union collapsed, it became clear that ethnic Russians had been encouraged to flood into Estonia and Latvia in order to destroy the cultures and languages of these peoples.

Previously, it had been easy to dismiss as unrealistic Jean Raspail's anti-immigration novel The Camp of the Saints, in which virtually the entire population of India decides to move, in small boats, into France, and the French, infected by liberal ideology, cannot summon the will to prevent economic and cultural national destruction. As cultural and welfare-state problems have intensified, it became impossible to dismiss Raspail's concerns any longer.”
Murray Rothbard: Nations by Consent.

Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:28 pm to
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France has not integrated the huge African population and this is a problem.


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34725 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:34 pm to
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This may be why the monolithic Scandinavian societies seem so nice.


Ummm, they are having issues too.

Amongst the “Western” Europeans, only the Swiss seem to have a set of balls.
Posted by jessecraig
Member since Jun 2023
53 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:40 pm to
A group of Somalis were arrested for rioting in the French region of Switzerland. No where is safe for White people anymore.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35063 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:47 pm to
Cain slew Abel out of envy. Lucifer became Satan out of envy. There is no absolute equity, and given the human ego and the idea of self worth- especially in the minds of those who have less - then it’s offended egos, false pride, grievance, envy and a dogfight. Those Africans fell like they are lesser people and will not be satisfied until they bring the French down. Envy is THE original sin. Inferno is an apt descriptor.
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
96616 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:16 pm to
TLDR - District 13 was a preview of the future.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11680 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Borders, culture and language matter.

Open Borders, or the “Camp of-the Saints” Problem...

“...The question of open borders, or free immigration, has become an accelerating problem for classical liberals. This is first, because the welfare state increasingly subsidizes immigrants to enter and receive permanent assistance, and second, because cultural boundaries have become increasingly swamped. I began to rethink my views on immigration when, as the Soviet Union collapsed, it became clear that ethnic Russians had been encouraged to flood into Estonia and Latvia in order to destroy the cultures and languages of these peoples.

Previously, it had been easy to dismiss as unrealistic Jean Raspail's anti-immigration novel The Camp of the Saints, in which virtually the entire population of India decides to move, in small boats, into France, and the French, infected by liberal ideology, cannot summon the will to prevent economic and cultural national destruction. As cultural and welfare-state problems have intensified, it became impossible to dismiss Raspail's concerns any longer.” Murray Rothbard: Nations by Consent.


Lot of good stuff over at mises
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50115 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:39 pm to
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A group of Somalis were arrested for rioting in the French region of Switzerland.


They can burn down Minneapolis and I'll shed not a tear.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11680 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:42 pm to
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TLDR - District 13 was a preview of the future.


Yeah - I almost characterized France in the summary as a real life prelude to the Hunger Games.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:48 pm to











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If France and the rest of Europe do not get immigration under control, the consequences will be disastrous for them.











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