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re: ATL thread 7/4 - Braves (Allard) vs [Indians] (Frick) - 6:10 CDT

Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Well his OBP and whiff rate for the last month and a half suggest maybe he does.


It is worth keeping an eye on, but I'm not ready to demote him yet.

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If an obvious upgrade, such as Tim Anderson, is available in a year where you're a favorite to win a World Series, where's the downside to making that move?

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Anderson not have the greatest rep as a teammate/clubhouse guy? If that is true than AA won't even consider him b/c we all know that he is big on clubhouse chemistry and fit(and rightly so)
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:39 pm to
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It is worth keeping an eye on, but I'm not ready to demote him yet.



It comes down to who you think Arcia is as a player, is he the guy we saw in April and May or is he the guy we've seen in June and July and pretty much his entire career outside of last April and May.

If it's the latter, you have to consider making an upgrade if it's available. Like someone said in another game thread this week, this is probably the strongest team we've ever had in the Snitker era, no time to frick around, go for the World Series.


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Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Anderson not have the greatest rep as a teammate/clubhouse guy?


Larussa hated him but his teammates love him. He was a clubhouse favorite on the WBC team.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:45 pm to

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It comes down to who you think Arcia is as a player, is he the guy we saw in April and May or is he the guy we've seen in June and July and pretty much his entire career outside of last April and May.

If it's the latter, you have to consider making an upgrade if it's available. Like someone said in another game thread this week, this is probably the strongest team we've ever had in the Snitker era, no time to frick around, go for the World Series.



Like I said it's worth keeping an eye on. The next couple of weeks will.be the critical ones in terms of answering that question.

But, Arcia is near elite defensively so it may be a case of keeping him in there just on that alone b/c we are so elite offensively everywhere else and you can't afford to be weak defensively up the middle.


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Larussa hated him but his teammates love him. He was a clubhouse favorite on the WBC team.



Thanks.

Larussa is a fricking douche who hates everyone so no concerns then. If he hates you that's probably a good thing.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:47 pm to
We suck we lost blow it all up fire everybody. Trade them all.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72111 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:49 pm to
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We suck we lost blow it all up fire everybody. Trade them all.



No one is saying this.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35641 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:52 pm to
In his defense, he was being facetious.
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:06 pm to
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For being nothing more than a pinch runner, Hilliard isn't particularly good at it.


That Cleveland Catcher beat Hilliard's arse at home plate and it took Hilliard way too long to get to the plate. He is slow.
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:09 pm to
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Hader is at the top.

Rumors that Detroit is shopping Lange as well.


Wonder what it would take to get Joe Kelly from the White Sox. At least he can throw a hundy and has a wicked slider. Don't know about his contract status either
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
3252 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:12 pm to
I’m just going to say I trust Alex Anthopoulos more than us message board warriors when it comes to building our roster.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72111 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:22 pm to
So message board warriors aren't allowed to discuss?

Quick being a gatekeeping bitch.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13282 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:57 pm to
One of the best bullpens in the NL. I think ranked 2nd
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13282 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:59 pm to
He’s an all-star this season and people want to demote him?

What the frick stupid dumbass planet are we living on?
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 12:05 am to
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If an obvious upgrade, such as Tim Anderson, is available in a year where you're a favorite to win a World Series, where's the downside to making that move?


Anderson dropped off a bunch last year, and has been flat out terrible this year. He's been very bad defensively for two years running. I'm not sure how he would be an obvious upgrade at the moment.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35641 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:52 am to
Yeah I'd just more rather keep Arcia at short since that is the case.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5727 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:56 am to
The Braves are on a 27-3 run. Maybe the players we’ve got are damn good. 1-26.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
3252 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:34 am to
Despite the loss the Braves still:

Lead NL East by 8
Lead NL by 7.5
Lead MLB by 1.5

Still 9-1 in last 10 games. There are no 8-2 teams in that span and five teams are 7-3.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45239 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:47 am to
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Anderson dropped off a bunch last year, and has been flat out terrible this year. He's been very bad defensively for two years running. I'm not sure how he would be an obvious upgrade at the moment.


And also, he is a douche who actually views himself as a modern day Jackie Robinson. I know he's supposedly popular in the White Sox clubhouse, but he has been a shite stirrer who has caused some problems for them.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5727 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:08 am to
On any transaction, the Braves have to consider culture first. Culture is what got them where they are right now.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45239 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:10 am to
Probably also worth noting that Anderson has a Fangraphs WAR of -1.1 this season. So he's a piece of shite and he's playing terrible baseball. Hard, hard, hard pass.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24495 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:18 am to
Yeah, I'd say not to Anderson. But not at all against trading for a legit back up that could spell Arcia some. And if he (the back up) gets hot, then maybe ride with him more. But I think trading for a starter would do more harm than good.
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