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re: How did the Pitching dramatically improve so quickly?

Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:03 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:03 am to
The guys stepped up, and the coaches let them fight through tough situations rather than going to multiple bullpen arms

Wind blowing in at Omaha made a big difference, as it did for our offense.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:11 am to
I don't think it had as much to do with Omaha or the lack of SEC zones (even though it definitely took even another step up) as it did with something taking place after the Mississippi St debacle.

After the Miss St series we saw a marked improvement in the staff, after that series in SEC play (final weekend and SECT) the staff ERA went to 4.89. Prior to that the staff ERA was 6.97.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:36 am to
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the coaches let them fight through tough situations rather than going to multiple bullpen arms

Gotta think that’s one reason why it was worse before. CJJ definitely seemed to use the regular season to test and condition many players and positions including the bullpen.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:14 am to
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Improved about the time CWJ was announced coach at UGA


This.

My personal speculation was Wes was trying to call pitches like he had a staff full of MLB guys. Once we simplified our pitching strategy it seemed to click, plus the wind blowing in for all but the UF series in Omaha certainly helped. I’m sure it’s huge in a pitcher’s mindset that even if you miss your spot or leave a meatball over the plate, the hitter is going to have to get every bit of it to get it out of the park.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:43 pm to
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I think we fans underestimate the amount of practice that is being done during regular season games. Pitchers are trying out techniques and stretching their capabilities. When playoff time came several things happened. 1. No more practicing 2. Narrowed down group of pitchers who would see the mound 3. SEC strike zone went away 4. Favorable ball park in Omaha with prevailing winds allowed more aggressive pitching.


This is exactly it. It amazes me how so many people even in this thread think the change in pitch selection and pitcher utilization was an unplanned shift in strategy. It’s more logical to see the results as a natural progression specifically designed to have this staff ready to go and peaking in the postseason.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7204 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:49 pm to
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How did the Pitching dramatically improve so quickly?


Mid week games against teams like Nicholos, ULL and McNeese
wasn't exactly practice games. They were great prep for late season runs.
Posted by LSU$$$
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
1165 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 2:21 pm to
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A guy like Hurd you could tell early in an outing of he would be good or bad. Most of the time in the last month or so it was good. He harnessed the over throwing and threw more offspeed pitches


If Thatcher Hurd is able to land his curve ball in for a strike, he is a very formidable pitcher to deal with. If his curve falls off the plate, he becomes one dimensional.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 2:22 pm to
Limited the innings of Collins, Dutton, Little and Money after the Mississippi State series.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:27 pm to
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A guy like Hurd you could tell early in an outing of he would be good or bad. Most of the time in the last month or so it was good.

What did you think after he gave up the first inning two run homer against Florida? Because he went on to pitch six no-hit innings.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48699 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:18 pm to
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What did you think after he gave up the first inning two run homer against Florida? Because he went on to pitch six no-hit innings.


It's not unusual for Pitcher in college and in the MLB to need an Inning of pitching before they settle in and find their control.

But what if Hurd DID NOT settle in after the First Inning? I refused to even think about that during the game.

Who would have replaced Hurd, if he could not find his control during the Second Inning? I don't remember who was available. I guess Guidry?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40211 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 8:46 am to
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But what if Hurd DID NOT settle in after the First Inning? I refused to even think about that during the game.

It was a thin line of pitching and defense that carried LSU to the championship game. A lot of guys held the rope.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32201 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:02 am to
Jay and Wes used the season to find out who they could use and count on, like a good coach does.

That’s why we didn’t see Collin’s or Dutton or Little, etc in any roles other than the blowout to UF. All they were in for was to eat innings. That’s the main reason. You look at the others throughout the year and they were all pretty good going into post season. Then the wasteland of Charles Schwab did the rest.
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